[Supplement] Border Town Burning - Full Supplement Out Now!!

Better late than never man! If anything it just makes the excitement we all feel even greater!

Thank you very much, people! You're an incredible support for me right now. Actually I have pretty much everything on this "remedy" PC now. It's about time I write an email to Stu now.. he's been waiting for it for too long now.

I have given up fixing the messed up laptop for now so what I wil do today is wrap up the last present for my girlfriend and see what I can do about BTB.

Again, thank you all!

Contracting the Cianty virus* was a bitter blow folks because we pulled some double-shifts to deliver the final supplement this week. Having the deadline really made me get my arse into gear, that is for sure.

*That nasty germ originated in the hit TV show Heroes didn't you know.

We put so much work into finishing off this free download and I hope you don't hate us for the late delivery of your Mordheim xmas gift.

Merry xmas everyone,

Stu.

No trouble with lateness. It's a free supplement and you guys have been going out of your way to bring it to us so take as long as you need.

Hey, we all apreciate the huge amount of work you are putting into the supplement. It doesn´t matter if it is late, i know from personal experience what a "joy" it is to reinstall everything on a computer and how long it takes, especially if not everything is going smoothly.
Cianty, give your computer a kick, that always works in the movies...or even better, give the guy who programmed the virus a kick

Who spends their time writing viruss just to piss people they've never met off?!

Quick update: the laptop is still messed up and my replacment PC doesn't even boot after autodownloading the latest Windows update. The release date thus has to be pushed back to early/mid january. This also means that the launch of Portents of Doom has to be pushed back by a few weeks.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you.

I'm out for the rest of 2008. See you next year.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cianty-

Vista? Service Pack one? Microsoft's free fix-it line

If not, I'm assuming SP3 for XP. There is some less than free help for that.

Have a good holiday Cianty!
Im sorry your computer is causing you grief, either way, I am more than willing to wait for the release.
Keep up the good work!.

Don't worry Cianty, we all are waiting, and altough it's hard to wait so long, we understand that your situation with your computer is really bad. So have no fear, we'll be waiting!

Happy holiday and see you next year!

I have been looking, i know its not fully out yet but i am rather interested in the mauraders of chaos =(
and the downloads dont work so they not ready for download yet?

Hi, everyone,

this is just a quick update. We have everything done so far and are currently going through the entire file for the last time. You know, checking if everything looks good and no errors slipped in. This means you can expect the full supplement within the next couple of days. Thanks again for your kind words and your understanding!

By the way, the individual downloads will then be also fixed, Barden.

w00t!

That is good news !

Cianty, you're a god!

But which one though? Khorne? Onogal? Sigmar? the Horned Rat?

So excited!

Is the Ogre Warband for BTB in the final form the same warband that was released on the BTB website in one of the 6 parts as dl's? If so, then in the interests of keeping yourself cianty and the other BTB designers/playtesters who have worked on the Ogre Maneater Warband held in high regard for your work, I must insist that the Maneater warband is not fit for publishing at this stage. It needs a review.

Ram Rock Ed First.

Ram Rock Ed First wrote:

in the interests of keeping yourself cianty and the other BTB designers/playtesters [...] held in high regard for your work...

Look, BTB is not about fame and fortune (actually it is, but not for us). It is about sharing game and campaign mechanics with other players because they have worked for us and added a lot to our Mordheim games and we're doing it in a way GW currently does not. This is not about having "Cianty" on your harddrive so if you want to make any suggestions then don't make them by pointing to my ego but make constructive suggestions for the sake of the players' enjoyment.

Yep, stating that something is not fit for publishing is not very helpfull, at least not without further comments . Have you tried the maneaters out? And what exactly is it that makes you feel that strongly about it?

Ram Rock Ed First wrote:

I must insist that the Maneater warband is not fit for publishing at this stage. It needs a review.

You see Ram, the warbands for BTB have been playtested many times and I think you should REALLY play them for a while to get a better impression.

Personally, I find that a lot of the time I read rules and think "Oh my god, that is so unballanced" and then, when I get a chance to try them out, and experience a few crushing defeats, I suddenly get more creative and start to exploit the rules to my advantage. And all of a sudden it does not look that unballanced anymore.

Example One. I play wood elves in WHFB and always got my ass handed to me by Ogre Kingdoms. I felt they were overpowered, until the day I learnt to "think out of the box" a little and adopted an extreme hit and run tactics (sure I could have thought of this earlier) and used a little more magic. All of a sudden it was the ogre player who lost 4 times in a row.

Example Two. Skaven look pretty overpowered in Mordheim from the rules. At least some people think so (I don't). But when you play them, I actually find they are more difficult to play than it looks.

So again, playing (more than ONCE!) is crucial to get an idea of the designer's intentions.

And then there is always the element of terrain. The warbands were tested on certain tables that certainly have a radically different setup from your table. So try to adapt your scenerey to the purpose a little and then try again. I won't conceal the fact from you that my victories against the ogres also came from the fact that instead of making and open field we later put 2 small woods on the table (+1 that Wood Elves may ALWAYS place before setup in their half).

I suggest you trust the BTB team a little and try the supplement with a little bit of good will. No wargame is 100% ballanced (except Chess perhaps), but let's not get obsessive about that either. If all else fails, you can make your house rules for Ogres if that makes you feel better.

Please let's not go into a debate about the warband rules in this thread.

I cannot believe I'm saying this...

Spoiler:

oooh i bet I'm the first!!!

I have just registered to say this: BTB looks very promising, and I look forward to using it in our mordheim-group (and I also look forward to having my Wulfen go from 1 to 2 wounds ).


- Tank