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PostSubject: Re: My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion   My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Oct 2009 - 20:04

Wow first let me say excellent job! I love all the character in your buildings. I like how you've put some debri on the ground but not enough to make it hard to place miniatures.

If your looking for critisism, the only thing I don't like is in the 6th picture down, there is a carving in the exterior stone wall. It looks like this is supposed to be cracking but i'm not sure. It is very curvy and to me that makes it look more organic like a vine. I don't know what your intention with this was but for me it doesn't read well. I can't tell if it is a vine or cracking?

Hope that helps in some way. Overall excellent job! cheers
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DeafNala wrote:
If you want to add YET MORE things to do to the project, you might give the place some eerie looking faces coming out of the walls like this:

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Wow, nice! Well, I'm afraid this is a bit beyond my current skills : )
But it did motivate me to include a bit more details than I probably would have put in otherwise!
Actually I'm curious about all your terrain: do you have a link/some links where we can admire it?


Ash wrote:
If your looking for critisism, the only thing I don't like is in the 6th picture down, there is a carving in the exterior stone wall. It looks like this is supposed to be cracking but i'm not sure. It is very curvy and to me that makes it look more organic like a vine. I don't know what your intention with this was but for me it doesn't read well. I can't tell if it is a vine or cracking?


Well, that was actually a random experiment... The idea suddenly popped into my mind to make some kind of “arty vine cracks”, didn't really think much about it (why? What?) and the effect isn't anything stunning, but it doesn't really bother me either, so I didn't bother changing it...: p

Sooo, finally my Second Serious Scenery Sculpting Saga is over! Or at least almost. Still have to make a few ladders and stairs, doors, maybe some more details, but overall it's generally done. Looking back at the amount of time I spent making it, it would've been worth it to buy some bits and pieces like window frames etc... How well...

Anyway: Below you'll find a bunch of pictures! I added some of my lizardmen to give you an idea of the size and proportions.

(Somewhere in November or December we'll get together with some friends and test this terrain piece and my Arena with a new Mordheim Campaign)


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Hope you enjoy it.
As usual, all comments are welcome.

FYI, the piece is 74cm long, 60cm wide and 50cm high (or 29 x 24 x 20 inch). Hopefully it will make Mordheim more 3D than 2D... : )

More pictures in the next post...


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INCREDIBLE! That is a gaming board in & of itself. To think that it ALL started out as a piece of packing material that most Folk throw away...I'm NEVER throwing ANYTHING away EVER again! The amount of detail [I spotted the viney tendril thingy...COOL My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 544694 ] you incorperated into your WONDERFUL creation is STAGGERING requiring MANY a happy visit to take it all in. WONDERFULLY WELL DONE! My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 544694
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WOW! That is an awesome piece! Like Al said, it's more of a gaming board in its own right, than a mere piece.

I really like the red you chose, it looks fantastic. Very well done! thumbsup

Thanks for the eye candy, thanks for sharing! bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce
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This looks NICE!!! You really made something special here, and big! And we all like big... And all scratch built, amazing! As said before, this is more like a board then a single piece.

It must be a real blast to play on this piece of terrain.

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Wow that is so freaking awesome! Excelent job!
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Waouh ! Your players are very lucky to play on this wonderful scenery !
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I really like it!!! I hope my brother will be able to come close with his scenery project Smile

I love the multi lvl, that way you can take a high position!
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PostSubject: Re: My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion   My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 7 Nov 2009 - 15:03

I am way to lazy to build something like that myself....


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Just Kidding!


Great stuff man!!! It makes for a nice objective building.


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OK... ok... ok! You got it. My standards have been officially raised to the new "Jadex Standard" Smile Amazing!

My only critique is NOT about the terrain... is about your profile picture! What the Mordheim?!? Put something there you lazy bum! Razz
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That is pure awesomness! incredible! I loooooove this Item... I makes me wanna retink my gamedate for tomorrow and spend the whole night and day setting myself up with something as great as this! Love the atmosphere/feel/playability!

Only thing I thought somewhat off is the comet on the wall... a bit too colorfull/pronounced... everything else is just great!!!

so, even though it was an epic project, taking shit load of time and effort... we, as a community demand MORE!! Very Happy
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that is huge!! i've been watching the progress and the finished result is more than impressive. All the little details and the grande scale make it one of the most unique pieces i've seen.
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A toast to this amazing piece if work. My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Cid:742114909@08112009-1D90

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Totally agree! As I was looking through all the pics my first thought was how this could make a table all on it's own. Just as everyone else has said My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_biggrin Great work!
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Mordheimer wrote:
My only critique is NOT about the terrain... is about your profile picture!
What the Mordheim?!? Put something there you lazy bum! My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_razz

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Done!

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Only thing I thought somewhat off is the comet on the wall... a bit too colorfull/pronounced... everything else is just great!!!


Yes, I know, I had doubts myself at first... Actually it was even a bit brighter before, so I decided to
darken it a bit and in the end I placed it at a side which feels like “around the corner, out of sight” and not in the front at the main gate, or a place similar.

Ash wrote:
Totally agree! As I was looking through all the pics my first thought was how this could make a table all on it's own. Just as everyone else has said My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_biggrin Great work!


Well, at first I thought: “a table all on its own? It's just a large building...”
But this weekend we had our first Mordheim weekend since 'forever', which was lots of fun, and really:
the cardboard houses from the starters set sort of vanish and just serve as eyecandy and space filler around the big piece where all the action took place. My friend took some pics so I might post some later.

Anyway: some notes on the terrain and the mordheim experience in general My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_bounce ...


  • We where only 3 players (me Lizardmen, one possessed and one averlander warband) instead of the usual 4 and we played 4 multiplayer scenarios (3 times the Bastion scenery and one time my Arena), and it's rather hard to have balanced 3 player games... Somehow, not deliberately, there're always two players getting involved more and thus rooting sooner...

  • Luck played a large factor in the after-game-sequence: The averlander player had BOTH his 2 Bergjaeger up to 6BS after the 3rd game... One word: Ouch!
    The Possessed player rolled on the “Rewards of the shadowlord” table three times... Three times under 7. Poor Boy.
    Three seperate henchmen skink groups ALL got +1I on their first advance and no henchmen ever got “the lad's got talent” (except for one averlander), something I was going for by maxing out henchmen with minimal equipment. Darn...

  • My Mark of the old ones saved my Saurus Totem Warrior every battle.

  • One of my 5 Inititive skinks tried to leap over a 2 inch wide and 2 inch high gap. With 5 Initiative I though I could risk that move. The pictures below show the green planned path and the red actual way the skink went: a failed initiative test, skink falls 2 inch down, gets one S4 hit, gets wounded by it and goes out of action on a 5... My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_rolleyes
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  • Some advantages and disadvantages of the terrain:
    Bassically all batttles were fought inside the building. One nice thingy was that the battles where much more 3D with close combat on all but the most upper floor(s) (we put a lot of
    ladders most of the time...). With small and narrow walkways and narrow and broken floors, most battles where much less “All Out” then we where used to on the ground with lower and less terrain. This did favour the more shooty warbands like the averlanders and lizardmen and
    the possesed had a hard time... Also with most spots being within 1'' of an edge, getting knocked down or stunned meant succeeding in an initiative test or falling down several inches to an almost certain death... Niccccce My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_twisted (except for my Saurus' with I1)
    Now the big building basically works in a “circular way”, as indicated with the red lines on the pictures below. To allow for even more manoeuvrability I think I will add a “bridge”, or something that functions like a bridge (see green stuff on picture), to allow for even more paths and movement options to give shooters less places to saftely shoot from and to give close
    combat characters more possibilities to manoeuvre around.
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  • The scenario “Pesky Portals” from the Mordheimer site was quite fun, if somewhat random : p

Well I might remember more fun stuff later :p

Thanks for all the nice comments! Appreciate it ; )
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I think you are right!
If you reach to limitate the shooting phase with some elements ... then add it soon! They'll make your scenery more playable!
(Not artistically better ... Its terrific just now ^-^)
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wow !
you sure see things big !
another wonderful piece of work !
keep the pics coming ; we love it !
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All i can say is #$@* That has to be THE coolest Terrain Piece I have Ever seen!!!
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its pure awesomeness!!!
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Very Cool! It must be awesome to play in that multi-level piece.
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I want to marry you
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Skaw wrote:
I want to marry you

Well, I'm currently in a relationship with a beautiful and smart female specimen, but should you be a beautiful blond babe with big tits and round lips, I'd say: "When and where?" My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_razz
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Jadex wrote:
but should you be a beautiful
No...
Jadex wrote:
blond
No...
Jadex wrote:
babe
Hardly...
Jadex wrote:
with big tits
Nein..
Jadex wrote:
and round lips,
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But.....I...I... I want one of these at my house My 2nd serious scenery adventure: The City Guards Bastion - Page 2 Icon_sad
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Holy Crap that is awesome, it makes the POS building I make look like well POS.
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