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PostSubject: Legends of the High Seas   Thu 18 Sep 2008 - 19:14

Legends of the High Seas is a skirmish game by Warhammer Historical. It is based on the highly successful Legends of the Old West game, a mix of the Lord of the Rings game mechanics and the Mordheim campaign system.

For starters I posted an article about collecting pirate miniatures for a LotHS crew on my tabletop wargames blog. This may be useful to anyone that is interested in the game, but has no experience with non-GW miniatures.

Maybe seeing these great miniatures will ignite the pirate fire in some of you. Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Fri 19 Sep 2008 - 2:17

HAPPY INTERNATIONAL TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY, CHRIS!

Is this your "historical" project? If so, you've picked a REALLY good one! THE GREAT thing about Pirate Lore & the Wild West, for that matter, is that while it IS historical, it IS ALSO so steeped in legends that it approaches the Realm of Fantasy.
AND the BEST part is there are JUST SO MANY really great minis out there to bring the WHOLE thing to VIVID, FULL COLOR, 3D life.

I'm going to LOVE this project. I'll keep me eyes peeled fer MORE minis that might fit into yer SCURVY plans, Matey! [God, but I'm EASILY distracted & enthused! Suspect ]


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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Fri 19 Sep 2008 - 2:32

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Is this your "historical" project?

Actually it is not. Wink But I love LotHS nonetheless.

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THE GREAT thing about Pirate Lore & the Wild West, for that matter, is that while it IS historical, it IS ALSO so steeped in legends that it approaches the Realm of Fantasy.

Yeah, sort of. The author, Tim Kulinski, stressed how he meant the game to be rather Hollywood style instead of a 100% historically correct battle simulation. He did a great job in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Sat 27 Sep 2008 - 8:09

I got an opportunity to thumb through the Legends of the High Seas rules. VERY WELL DONE; I WAS impressed! This game has TREMENDOUS potential. You ARE maintaining your position as my Hero admirably! Suspect thumbsup

Addendum: I checked out your guide to Pirate minis; VERY WELL DONE, as usual. Here's another Pirate mini maker: www.moonlightmini.com . Moon Light is MOSTLY Living Impaired stuff with a fair amount of Folks That Are Still With Us Pirates, AND some COOL pulp era stuff. ALSO check out the link under Hobby for Shifting Lands, if for nothing other than PURE inspiration.
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 4:08

Since checking out your mini Pirate guide, I've been surfing my way through a LOT of mini makers. It seems like EVERYONE & their mother is making Pirates these days. It's cool, but most only make a few Pirate types, a lot of which are Fantasy ONLY sorts.

There is definitely NO paucity of selection in minis to choose from regardless of the type of game one wants to play. Baring a TOTAL economic collapse, this is a GREAT time to be a mini gamer! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 4:29

It's really unbelievable how many miniature makers are out there, once you've decided to go beyond GW. There are so many small companies with their own minis it's crazy. You'd think for historical gamers Foundry and Perry would be enough to saturate the market. There really is enough for everyone's taste, it's fabulous!

Me, I do like Black Scorpion pirates the most, but I'll be also getting myself the Artizan and Crusader pirates ranges. They all are superb.

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 4:59

lol!
We ARE definitely on the same page on this one [I'd flip to another page QUICKLY if I were you Suspect ]. Should funds EVER become available, I'd love to get some of the Black Scorpion Pirates.
For some Fantasy type Pirates, I've GOT to get the Reaper Pirates of the Dragonspine Sea Boxed set #2 [ www.reapermini.com ] and a couple of other thingys they make [they just came out with a Giant Crab pack thumbsup ]. The Artisan & Crusader stuff is ALSO on my MOST Wanted list.
Judging from the number of Pirate oriented folk on the Forum, this may become Tom's Piratical Mordheim Forum. ARRRH! Although, WE of the Orc & Goblin persuasion MAY do a take over first!
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 5:21

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lol!
We ARE definitely on the same page on this one [I'd flip to another page QUICKLY if I were you Suspect ].

LOL. ha ha!

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Although, WE of the Orc & Goblin persuasion MAY do a take over first!

Yes, I'm afraid this is true. affraid

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 5:42

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Yes, I'm afraid this is true. affraid

Fear NOT, if we EVER took over we'd probably kill each other off THUS restoring things to NORMAL.Suspect

Addendum: on the Redoubt minis, while Redoubt's stuff is rather a mixed bag quality-wise, they DO have an EXCELLENT albiet PRICEY Bull Dog Brig , a RN ship's boat, & a couple of other nautical models that I could HONESTLY recommend. The Perry twins also had a couple of nice resin boats/ships available; I'm not sure if these are still being carried however.


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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 5:49

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Fear NOT, if we EVER took over we'd probably kill each other off THUS restoring things to NORMAL.Suspect

There is light at the end of the tunnel!

Wait, that's just a stain on the inside of my eye patch! Shocked pirat

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 11:52

The rules aren't available anywhere online for free, I suppose?
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 12:07

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The rules aren't available anywhere online for free, I suppose?

Ha ha, no way! Warhammer Historical makes money by selling rulebooks. They don't produce miniatures and you can't use Citadel Miniatures for most of theri stuff. Selling rules is what they are based on. Actually this is a dream come true. Imagine what Warhammer would look like if they were trying to make the rules so good that they had to make their money off selling those, instead of focusing on selling miniatures. This is exactly what Mordheim players complain about: GW doesn't support Mordheim because of lack of miniatures sales and producing Mordheim material would mean they'd have to make money off the books. And that's exactly what Warhammer Historical does! To me, this is a sign of quality.

Go and buy their books. They're well worth it! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 12:31

That's nowadays pirates for you, they even have to buy the rulebook Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 3:19

I was JUST over at the Wyrd Forum, & in their minis review section, lo & behold, Black Scorpion HAS more releases for September. OH BABY!cheers thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 3:53

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Addendum: on the Redoubt minis, while Redoubt's stuff is rather a mixed bag quality-wise, they DO have an EXCELLENT albiet PRICEY Bull Dog Brig , a RN ship's boat, & a couple of other nautical models that I could HONESTLY recommend. The Perry twins also had a couple of nice resin boats/ships available; I'm not sure if these are still being carried however.

I didn't notice your addendum before...

I just had another look at Redoubt.. I don't think they have any proper Vessels, except this little boat (and some Viking and Trojan stuff). However, I do like their Boxer rebellion range - the Boxers look pretty good to me! Style-wise they look as if they'd mix well with the Foundry Chinese Pirates, and I could even use them for my historical project I mentioned to you. What more can you ask for?

Perry doesn't offer any vessels on their website currently. I wonder what they looked like, but I bet they are top quality stuff as usual. Foundry also has a pirate ship that disappears when you click on it. Weird..

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I was JUST over at the Wyrd Forum, & in their minis review section, lo & behold, Black Scorpion HAS more releases for September. OH BABY!cheers thumbsup

Well, they are out already (if they are what I think you are referring to). They just released some more Able Seamen, Privateers and a Governor as you can see on their homepage.

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 4:16

Yep, those are the B.S. minis I saw at Wyrd. That Highwayman style mini with the cross arms & pistols WIP looks REALLY nice!

I don't think the Bull Dog Brig is still available. My friend John had sent me one about 12 years ago. I did it up & sold it [sounds of Old Man kicking himself]. At the time it was with an extra crew set around $400.

There are some size differences within the different Redoubt ranges. The Three Musketteers in particular is quite a bit larger than the others. A couple of guys I used to game with were doing the Boxer Rebellion using The Sword & the Flame rules. From my deteriorating memory I think they were approximately the same size or very slightly larger than the Wargames Foundry stuff they had. The Chinese were too heavily converted to really tell how they would match up quality-wise.


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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 5:25

Thanks for the info!

I also like that highwayman privateer a lot. Definately a stand-out model in that pack.

By the way, I am currently thinking about using this ship for my Chinese crew to be. We'll see...

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 5:37

OOOOOOOOH, that's one cool Junk! Considering the size, it's quite reasonably priced too. Is it a waterline model [couldn't quite tell from the photo] or will you be sawing it?

I'm digging my way through some OLD issues of Practical War Gamer. They had a Smugglers vs Revenue Agents campaign from the 18th century that MIGHT have Mordheim or LotHS possibilities. I NEVER throw out hobby mags, but FINDING them IS an adventure in & of itself. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 5:47

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OOOOOOOOH, that's one cool Junk! Considering the size, it's quite reasonably priced too. Is it a waterline model [couldn't quite tell from the photo] or will you be sawing it?

Yes, I'd have to saw it. But that would be the smallest problem I guess... I don't think I should assemble the model as normal if I wanted to use it for tabletop gaming (rigging and stuff). The price is pretty good indeed (60 cm length, 24 cm breadth, 59 cm height!). I'm just worried that it would be too time-consuming to assemble (and paint!) it.

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I'm digging my way through some OLD issues of Practical War Gamer. They had a Smugglers vs Revenue Agents campaign from the 18th century that MIGHT have Mordheim or LotHS possibilities. I NEVER throw out hobby mags, but FINDING them IS an adventure in & of itself. Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 5:50

Just found this: http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/books/foundrycomp.asp

Looks like a great source book.

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 6:11

That is a VERY useful guide. I think they had one out previously that I saw in Harbinger. At any rate.quite a lot of their minis are painted by Kev Dallimore whose work & generosity in passing on technique I admire. Sadly sans credit cards or money, for the moment it's beyond my means to acquire; of course, with a bank job or a five finger discount this might be remedied. Suspect

The guys at the Foundry ARE incredibly prolific, AND have been for a LOT of years. The depth & breadth of their range of minis IS truly staggering! affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Fri 3 Oct 2008 - 5:12

For somemore Piratical Inspiration INCLUDING a Chinese Junk replete with crew check out www.witchhunter.net under, appropriately enough, Pirates.
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 7 Oct 2008 - 13:02

NEWS FLASH! affraid

Over at the Wyrd Forum, they had a WIP of Black Scorpion's next bit of Pirate goodness: a Ship's Cannon & two Gunners. LOOKIN' GOOD!thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Tue 7 Oct 2008 - 15:09

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For somemore Piratical Inspiration INCLUDING a Chinese Junk replete with crew check out www.witchhunter.net under, appropriately enough, Pirates.

I know. Wink His pirates are in the LotHS book.

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NEWS FLASH! affraid

Over at the Wyrd Forum, they had a WIP of Black Scorpion's next bit of Pirate goodness: a Ship's Cannon & two Gunners. LOOKIN' GOOD!thumbsup

Now that's cool! Gotta love BS. Even though this means more must-have minis for me. Oh well...

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PostSubject: Re: Legends of the High Seas   Thu 9 Oct 2008 - 3:52

I was over at www.theminiaturespage.com AND they had a LOVELY Sampan [looked like a Junk to moi Suspect ] from Houston Ships that looked like it might appeal to you.
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