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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 15 Dec 2009 - 5:15

Von Kurst is right though cannon are the best option in naval games as bolt throwers just don't have the required punch to hurt an enemy ship. Frog would be voluntarily throwing the game if he didn't use them with the rules we use (as they are free for a start!)

I use my deck cannon as "counts as Rock Lobbers" but my ship is still armed with cannon broadsides. I like the idea of "Elfing-up" the cannon, I'm sure you'll be able to come up with some pretty cool looking evil Dark Elven magical weapons that work like cannon Tim!


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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 16 Dec 2009 - 12:35

Hey guys! and awesome work frog!

In that book Bloodstorm: A tale of Malus Darkblade, dark elves corsairs used an special type of bolts for his naval bolt throwers called "Dragon's breath". It's like an explosive bolt with magic warp fire (yes with wyrdstone). I imagine something like this:



It could be an idea to 'count as' cannon more druchii ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 16 Dec 2009 - 13:36

I second Deafnala's suggestion of dragon-headed cannons!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 1:51

well i've been working hard at it last night!

i will show you all soon my changes! - sadly i didn't take photos last night!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 23:50

OH! OH! how about dragonheaded bolt throwers that belch fire?!
(now thats a long sentance!)
The dragonbreathheartballbolter from mantic is kinda enough for count-as-cannon and it would stop all of us fluff monkeys b*tching.
(and by the look of their two piece elves and skellies they look cheap...sorry anyone from mantik if you are google botting us right now.)
on the upside they seem to include wardogs with their elves 0_o
(even if this isn't news well you know, ' if its news to me..')
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Fri 18 Dec 2009 - 19:14

Mantic Miniatures have been around for a couple of months now.

Actually as an introductory promotion, at TMP they made an offer hard to resist a couple of weeks ago: you just had to send them an e-mail with your name and address and they send you a FREE SPRUE with 2 elves, anywere in the world. Yep, FREE (including S&H).

I got mine and must say they are well detailed, but VERY THIN (they say elves are supposed to be frail, so it's their concept).

The miniatures are very well sculpted and about the right height to GW minis.

And yes, THEY ARE CHEAP.

I may preorder some of their skellies too.

Best wishes.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Sat 19 Dec 2009 - 12:15

It looks really neat, though you should replace the cannon for some bolt-throwers, more elfish somehow.
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Sun 20 Dec 2009 - 6:39

its looks sweet cant wait to see more
as a dark elve player i would love to have one of my own
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 17:45

So I thought it was time for an update!
Ive been working hard on many little things across the boat, lots of little details
Much sadly you cant see till its painted. But i've added several models to give you an idea of what its going to be like.
(I can fit 2 heroes, 20 Crossbow men & 20 Corsairs on-board. about 1500pts of ship n Crew)

Now on the topic of Cannons, i know its been much the sadness of many people that ive decided to have Cannons in the first place.
But i hope you like what ive done with them, ive still got two more to go, smaller lighter ones.

And yes i have a repeater cross-bolt thrower as any dark elf ship should have!

The Back view:

The Cannons have Cold one heads for the Malus Darkblade model.

You can see the most detail of the boat:

My fav photo: (i like the shadowing)
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 19:56

Wow that's a really nice ship, I can't wait to see it finished. Now you guys got me wanting to build ships when I can barely scrape up the time to work on Mordheim ruins.

What material do you plan on using for your sails?
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 1:43

BossFacePunch wrote:
Wow that's a really nice ship, I can't wait to see it finished. Now you guys got me wanting to build ships when I can barely scrape up the time to work on Mordheim ruins.

What material do you plan on using for your sails?
the same thing happened to me, i just had to build one!

the plan is that the sails will be made from normal "purple" Cloth. but with a wire mesh to give it a dragon wing shape, and coated in PVA.

The sails are also removable, (ive not glued the cross/top beams in)
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 1:44

She's a FINE looking ship. You've even achieved a sense of motion. I look forward to seeing her all painted up...SO get cracking . VERY WELL DONE!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 7:40

Fantastic looking ship, mate - cannons or otherwise. This whole thread has been a fantastic tutorial on how to make a boat from scratch and you can be sure I'll be checking back on it when the time comes to make my own High Elf, Viking inspired Dragonships. :3
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 8:59

Milliardo wrote:
Fantastic looking ship, mate - cannons or otherwise. This whole thread has been a fantastic tutorial on how to make a boat from scratch and you can be sure I'll be checking back on it when the time comes to make my own High Elf, Viking inspired Dragonships. :3

thanks milliardo, ive enjoyed making it! cant wait to see yours!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 18:56

amazing. i applaud you good sir!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Thu 31 Dec 2009 - 22:08

Great looking boat Mr Frog! Slap some paint on her.

Have a pint on me.
Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 12 Jan 2010 - 10:37

So i though it was time for an update on how im getting on!

Ive not done much work on the boat its self, but lots of work on the sails!

What are they made of?

A) I started with a wire frame, to get the "dragon wing" outline.
B) the fabric is made out of fabric snifter!
C) I then used purple silk paint, to get it to the colour it is!
D) Ive then that to sow it on! man that took ages!

Next:
E) i plan to use "Spray Glue" to get it to hold the shape.
F) then i may cut the wire away( the cross bit that looks poo!)

Well here is how it went:





Down side
Sadly it seems that the sails are to low. so im not sure how to work out how to get them men standing on deck and to be able to see! but im sure i will work something out!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 12 Jan 2010 - 11:19

The sails look SPECTACULAR...perfect color for a Dark Elven ship. VERY NICE WORK...keep it coming!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 12 Jan 2010 - 12:06

I've never seen hand stitched sails on a model boat before... although i haven't really looked at a lot of model boats! Regardless, it is looking great!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Tue 12 Jan 2010 - 13:13

i really like the color and the sowing of the sails! GREAT job!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Wed 13 Jan 2010 - 1:57

thanks guys, much appreciated.

the sails took ages, and the sowin was pain staking! but i think its come out al right, once ive done a few tweaks!

ive got an eve off tonight, so i may just do some more more!
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Thu 14 Jan 2010 - 6:52

to me the sails are too bright compared to the reast of the boat but as i said thats me
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Thu 14 Jan 2010 - 9:09

Don't worry: the rest of the boat is still just black under-coated! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Fri 15 Jan 2010 - 1:46

Knightei wrote:
to me the sails are too bright compared to the reast of the boat but as i said thats me

yea sorry, ive not had a chance to paint it yet. im waiting for the weather to get better, as im using a Spray Gun to spray it a deep purple.
(wet weather makes the spray come out different, - bring on a good sunny day!)
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PostSubject: Re: Dark Elf Boat   Fri 15 Jan 2010 - 8:15

Wow. This looks pretty awesome. I love seeing how people build their ships. Thanks for taking the time to take lots of pics of the process, it's really cool seeing all the steps that you've gone through to get it together.
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