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PostSubject: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 8:21

So, after having played on my new scenery with my Lizardmen (a campaign which we might continue) I thought it was time to start a more 'Urban' warband like the sisters of Sigmar. I also want to make it a good looking warband which I'd like to convert a bit, paint and improve my almost non-existent miniature painting skills...

First I want to do some research on what models/miniatures are available as sisters and this is where I'd appreciate help from the knowledgable community you people are!

We have of course the standard GW Mordheim miniatures:










I also did some searching on the Reaper miniatures site, and also they have some very nice models!

After some conversion, these minitures could make for some awesome heroes:







And they also have a series of Sisters/nuns:




















Of course all thouse swords should get replaced with hammers, maces and whips... So I need loose parts like arms with whips and hammers. These "Boneyard" peices I also found on the Reaper site (there are no seperate pics of the parts, just the complete minis):

Whips:








Hammers:





This last picture could also be a nice Augur, if I could just make her bald (axcept for the tail of course...). But this leads me to my first question:

1) Since I have NO experience with converting metal figures, how easy are they converted? Is making this chick bald and easy task? Or will it look like s***?
Also cutting away swords an all the models and replacing them with hammers/whips: is this easy? How to make the connections betwen the pieces strong and durable? Superglue? Greenstuff?


2) An obvious second question would be: where to find more lose hammers and whips (with or without arms attached)? Or how to make them?
Also: What other miniature sites/companies would you recommend? (I have no experience with this, only ever used GW minis...) Or do you know of other nice nun/sister/cleric/... models?
Are there other GW minis that might work?

3) I found a site www.chaosmailorder.com that sells the same Reaper models much cheaper, but it doesn't do interational
mail orders. Do you know any other miniature shipping companies that ship to Europe/Belgium?

4) A question about the size of the figures: Reaper uses 25mm (I think?) and GW uses 28mm... Is this a big difference? If I want to use a combination of GW and other minis, would the difference in size be annoying?
(Also, is there a big difference in quality between Reaper minis and GW minis?)

5) The "Bertha Bestraufrung" Dramatis Personae Mini is sooooo nice! Unfortunately I don't think GW still produces/sells it ... (Why? Will it ever come back?)
Same for the nice "Augur" mini...
Does anyone know where to find one? Do some retailers still sell it? Does anyone using these forums have one and wants to get rid of it?




Right, I think those where my 5 main questions!

I thank anyone willing to help me/answer any questions!
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 8:29

Reaper minis are absolutely great! But hammers and whips are such easy to make yourself, that you don't have to invest in miniature only for one stupid weapon.
To make hammer you have to cut previous weapon, drill 1mm hole in hand, use wire as a handle and green stuff "brick" as a main hammer. Later wrap wire with some putty to make some nice facture.
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 8:57

hi,

been looking for Bertha myself, but she goes for rather high bids on ebay, so I wasn't able to get my hands on her myself.
For more ideas about sisters ; Trulsa got a similar thread on this forum ; be sure to check it out ! I don't know if there was talk about sisters on my "female miniatures" thread ...
If you get an all reaper warband, I don't think the size will pose you problems compared to the warbands you'll be fighting.

Replacing weapons is easy most of the time.
Making a bald head seems easy as well, but ofcourse you have to take into account the amount of existing hair you need to get rid off. If it's just the top of the head that needs taking off, that's no problem, but if the hair is sculpted on a larger part of the body, it can mean a lot of hard work.

There are lots of companies that ship to Belgium (lot of them in England) ; go search on ebay, or just google the name of minis you want until you find a UK based company.

Really look forward to seeing pics about your upcoming warband !!
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 9:29

ANSWERS:...more or less.

1- MicroArt Studio makes female heads which I believe come sans hair. I'll see if I can find you a lnk.

2-The "Hairy Head (Middenheimer) sprue has LOTS of hammers...I just happen to have a bunch that you can have if you'd like them. I'll check for some whips.

3-The War Store www.thewarstore.com has GOOD prices on Reaper minis; they do International Shipping, but suggest that they ship (for FREE) to a friend or relative in the USA if you have one...which you DO...to have them forward the minis to you.

4-Reaper calls their stuff "Heroic" 25mm which is the same as GW's 28mm & some other mini makers' 32mm...I wish they's ALL get on the same page.

5-I had both of those Holy Babes, but I traded them to Trulsa...my Avatar is in LOVE with her Avatar.
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Tue 10 Nov 2009 - 15:56

Thanks for all the fast responses!
I'll get into modeling details and more questions later, but for now my question is whether paizo.com is a good online store? The prizes seems OK, as does shipping and they have another one or two nice models beyond the reaper collection.
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 10:34

@ Deafnala. Yup, my girlfriend Trulsa is really sinking her teeth into some nice Reaper minis right now, building a Sisters and a female Witch hunter warband at the same time. Thanks again DeafNala for Bertha and the Augur. thumbsup

(Still looking forward to my own Reaper undead minis to finish my warband...)

@ Jadex. I know there´s a nice plastic whip in the orc chariot sprue. Kazrak the beastman has a barbed metall one. Thinking about it, I guess most chariot crews got one.

Many plastic GW kits have hammers of some sort, dwarfs, marauders?, chaos warriors?, middenheimers, knights of the white wolf etc. "Pinning is the way to go i guess when attachin them, drilling a hole in both bits and put a brass rod in between. Enforcing with glue and perhaps green stuff is also good.

Does an Augur need to be bald btw?
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 11:00

Imbued84 wrote:
Does an Augur need to be bald btw?

According to the "fluff" in the starting warband, yep.

""Unlike the rest of the priestesses, they shave their heads, save for a single long braid" (p.84, 2nd column, 2nd entry: Augur)

Besides, they are blind.

But of course, nothing stops you from "interpreting" this as you see fit, if you find a suitable mini and you want to use it .

And as the "official" Augur isn't available anymore (shame on
GW), you MUST find a proxi mini to use.

Hope that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 11:07

Have a look on ebay.co.uk Jadex. A few Bertha were on there a couple of days ago for cheap. And the Augur model also
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 12:04

DeafNala wrote:
ANSWERS:...more or less.

1- MicroArt Studio makes female heads which I believe come sans hair. I'll see if I can find you a lnk.

2-The "Hairy Head (Middenheimer) sprue has LOTS of hammers...I just happen to have a bunch that you can have if you'd like them. I'll check for some whips.

3-The War Store www.thewarstore.com has GOOD prices on Reaper minis; they do International Shipping, but suggest that they ship (for FREE) to a friend or relative in the USA if you have one...which you DO...to have them forward the minis to you.

4-Reaper calls their stuff "Heroic" 25mm which is the same as GW's 28mm & some other mini makers' 32mm...I wish they's ALL get on the same page.

5-I had both of those Holy Babes, but I traded them to Trulsa...my Avatar is in LOVE with her Avatar.

Thanks for all the clear answers!
About the bald head: I'll just try to "shave" the rest of her hair as the model already has a nice and long braid : )
I also have some plastic hammer leftovers from a "morheim mercenaries plasic set" (is it that one you mean? Or what is the "Hairy Head (Middenheimer) sprue"?), but pesonally I find those hammers a bit to small/hammerish... Plus, they're from plastic: is it possible/advisable to us plastic weapons on metal mini's? Do you have some pics of your hammers? I wouldn't want to waste them ; )


Kadzik wrote:
Reaper minis are absolutely great! But hammers and whips are such easy to make yourself, that you don't have to invest in miniature only for one stupid weapon.
To make hammer you have to cut previous weapon, drill 1mm hole in hand, use wire as a handle and green stuff "brick" as a main hammer. Later wrap wire with some putty to make some nice facture.

Thanks for this info. I'm completely new to modding/modelling so even this basic info was very very usefull! Do you have a link or something to some tutorial for this? (on hammers/whips, or even just general greenstuff creations?)


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hi,

been looking for Bertha myself, but she goes for rather high bids on ebay, so I wasn't able to get my hands on her myself.
For more ideas about sisters ; Trulsa got a similar thread on this forum ; be sure to check it out ! I don't know if there was talk about sisters on my "female miniatures" thread ...
If you get an all reaper warband, I don't think the size will pose you problems compared to the warbands you'll be fighting.

Replacing weapons is easy most of the time.
Making a bald head seems easy as well, but ofcourse you have to take into account the amount of existing hair you need to get rid off. If it's just the top of the head that needs taking off, that's no problem, but if the hair is sculpted on a larger part of the body, it can mean a lot of hard work.

There are lots of companies that ship to Belgium (lot of them in England) ; go search on ebay, or just google the name of minis you want until you find a UK based company.

Really look forward to seeing pics about your upcoming warband !!

Middenheim Matt wrote:
Have a look on ebay.co.uk Jadex. A few Bertha were on there a couple of days ago for cheap. And the Augur model also

Yeah, I looked on ebay, international/UK/everything, but the prices are still rather high... Or maybe I'm just not used to OOP prices for nice looking mini's... : p
I found:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?LH_AvailTo=3&_nkw=bertha+mordheim
Maybe I'm not looking the right way?...


Imbued84 wrote:
@ Deafnala. Yup, my girlfriend Trulsa is really sinking her teeth into some nice Reaper minis right now, building a Sisters and a female Witch hunter warband at the same time. Thanks again DeafNala for Bertha and the Augur. thumbsup

(Still looking forward to my own Reaper undead minis to finish my warband...)

@ Jadex. I know there´s a nice plastic whip in the orc chariot sprue. Kazrak the beastman has a barbed metall one. Thinking about it, I guess most chariot crews got one.

Many plastic GW kits have hammers of some sort, dwarfs, marauders?, chaos warriors?, middenheimers, knights of the white wolf etc. "Pinning is the way to go i guess when attachin them, drilling a hole in both bits and put a brass rod in between. Enforcing with glue and perhaps green stuff is also good.

Does an Augur need to be bald btw?


Mmmm, DeafNala doen't only seem like a nice guy, he really IS a nice guy, trading away those nice minis!

Thanks for all the references to the whips/hammers! But I'm trying to keep the budget minimal and I don't have a lot of these spare parts/sprues, and buying them just for that seems a bit drastic! I'll go with Kadzik's advice on making them myself. With 'zero' experience, I guess it'll also be a very nice learning process...


Also: Since I didn't get any specific references to other "nun/sister/cleric/...-ish" models, I just went for an all (but one) Reaper mini Sisters of Sigmar warband. Below are all the pics of the minis I ordered, 16 in total, a decent amount to have some spare models to maximise the WYSIWYG options. Also ordered some greenstuff, a drill and a sculpting pen-thingy to get creative.. (I ordered it all at once from paizo.com... Anyone has got positive or negative experiences with this site?)
Anyone hase a link to a fantastic beginners tutorial on greenstuffing, with rules of thumb, basics tips, ec.?

Here are the fig that I ordered and that I'll try to mod:




(this is the only non-reaper, but oooh so nice, mini)






(this is the one I'll try to make bald and make it my Augur)














(I ordered this set of three nuns twice to serve as backbone sisters/novices)


I'm eager to start my First Serious Modelling and Painting Adventure...
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 15 Nov 2009 - 11:21

Woah! After seing these models i really feel bad about buying the original GW ones - these are SO much cooler!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Wed 18 Nov 2009 - 13:30

Well I was wrong. The Female heads are by Hasslefree AND they are bald. Here's a link:
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=60 .
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sat 21 Nov 2009 - 10:40

Here is a tip for a cool model with steel whip:

From reaper minis. Rasia, w/Spiked Chain.

I am in the process of making my own sisters of sigmar warband. Jadex, would you mind giving me the name/number of the minis you linked in your last post?
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 22 Nov 2009 - 10:38

Nice fig indeed. U already ordered a bunch of figures though, so not so sure if I'll order this one as well... But thanks for the tip, thery're always welcome! Wink

For the names of the fig, I just copypasted my kist of figs I ordered at Paizo.com:

Reaper:
Alaine Female Paladin
Elori Ebonscythe, Evil Female Cleric
Cyanea the Just, Female Cleric
Sora Goldflame, Female Cleric
Isabeau Laroche, Female Paladin
Nicole of the Blade Female Warrior
Majeda Battle Nun
Battle Nun Novitiates (3)
Kristianna & Squire
Majeda, Battle Nun

Non Reaper (www.darkswordminiatures.com/visions_gallery.html):
Female Paladin with Morning Star and Sword



But maybe you'll prefer other figures over mine, so on the reaper mini site, just "search" for:
- Nun
- Sister
- Female cleric
- Female Paladin
- ...
...and you might find other figs you like ; )
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 22 Nov 2009 - 17:19

DeafNala wrote:
Well I was wrong. The Female heads are by Hasslefree AND they are bald. Here's a link:
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=60 .

Thanks Man! I'll first try to "shave" her had manually, if that fails I can use those heads as back up!
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Mon 19 Apr 2010 - 17:17

Sister of Sigmar MUST have Warhammer... Smile
It's a Sign like ... Nike on Shoe Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Fri 23 Apr 2010 - 1:42

http://vendelminiatures.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26&products_id=307
Vendel has warhammers, no pics though, but you really cant go wrong with ten for a pound
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Fri 23 Apr 2010 - 14:23

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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Fri 23 Apr 2010 - 15:09

but no plastic support :p
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sat 24 Apr 2010 - 5:00

The women heads Deaf told about:

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/women-heads-p-360.html?cPath=45
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sat 24 Apr 2010 - 11:54

i just found a action on ebay you might want to look at Smile
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORDHEIM-4x-Sisters-of-Sigmar-Heros-Augur-Bertha-OOP_W0QQitemZ170476978449QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toys_Wargames_RL?hash=item27b1384111
dont know if it will be any good but it looks cheap.

the other models you have found look good, nice and nun like lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 12 Sep 2010 - 10:43

A long time has passed since I posted anything (basically due to the fact that I have 'Mordheim-intense' periods as well as 'Mordheimless' periods), but I have been working on the SIsters Of Sigmar Warband above, converting etc., and am now in a near-final stage, before painting (If I ever get to painting them... Neutral ).

Heroes





Henchmen (Or better: 'Henchwomen")





(I might use them like this in a next Mordheim weekend in two weeks)

Ideas for further adding details with GS etc are always welcome! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 12 Sep 2010 - 11:25

COOL LOOKING HOLY BABES...rumble of thunder...Blessed Sisters of Sigmar! The hammers, in particular, turned out TERRIFIC; they're of a size that suggests that the Sisters could actually wield them. The Ladies will look LOVELY when all painted up. thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Sun 12 Sep 2010 - 14:43

GREAT! They look awesome Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Mon 13 Sep 2010 - 12:43

holy moly !
this looks like a rather nasty warband !
i see them witchhunters getting pale already !
go grab your brushes !
up til now you did a terrific job !
really like the hammers with their stylized "S"
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PostSubject: Re: Start of a new Sisters of Sigmar warband?   Mon 13 Sep 2010 - 13:05

Awesome! I have seen these reaper mini's before and they are really great!

This by the way DOES mean that we want to see these girls painted in a short time Wink
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