Squigs - Charging into something hidden?

Question: If a Squig moves into hidden model and passes it's initiative test (rolled upon contact) do they stop and treat it as a charge on the model? What if it doesn't fails the test. Does it then move "through" the model or around it.

Hmmm.. im not 100% sure but, i think a squig can charge, without spotting...
If its movement allows it to come in base contact in counts as charging.

-Skavenslayer

I'd say that the squig counts as charging when he touches the hidden models base even without having to pass an initiative test. The squig is bouncing along happily and I suppose those hungry and vivious beast won't be that stupid as to jump on top of a human hiding behind a wall and not noticing him... So, bad luck for the hiding one

you obviously never saw cheesy horrormovies! there you walk straight by the killer only to be stabbed in the back the next second... (in movies preferably minutes to ad to the suspense, and the actual horror hehe)

I think it'll still need to pass it's I test, but doesn't need to charge... they are ferocious enough to bite anything they come across, they just have to spot it in time...

maybe making a leadership test to see if if they notice the enemy?

Reality and horror movies aside, the rules say that squigs don´t charge as such, but count as charging if their variable movement brings them into contact. Since the iniative test is only done to charge a model that your charger can´t see, but that is NOT HIDDEN, the iniative does not apply to the question at all.
Quoted from da mob rulez:
"Squigs never run and never declare charges.
Instead, they are allowed to contact enemy models with their
normal 2D6" movement. If this happens, they count as
charging for the following round of close combat, just as if
they had declared a charge."

This means that a squig does not charge, but it is allowed to contact any model it can reach. There are no restrictions mentioned, so hiding or being unseen are irrelevant, you can simply contact all you can reach with your 2D6 movement.
Of course if you want to houserule that for fluff reasons it does need to check if it notices the model feel free to do so

Horatius wrote:

Quoted from da mob rulez:

Thanks Horatius. I love to see the actual rules quoted.

I agree with everything you said, but it still irks me a little. I don't use hiding ... at all.. Can someone explain what would happen if Bob is hidden 8 inches away from Roxr, and Roxr wants to charge Bob (and there's nothing in between the two models)?

Thanks

As far as I read in the German Rulebook (But that´s often a little bit wrong translated):
Bob can only hide if there is something to hide behind (Barrels, a ruin,...), if Roxr has a direct line of sight, Bob isn´t hidden anymore.
But if he is hidden, and Roxr is 8" away, he can´t see/attack Bob until he is near enough (based on his ini) this is 4" by an ini of 4, 5" by an ini of 5,...
I hope that´s right, and sorry for my English...
With friendly greetings,
Ralron

Correct, you don't test if you are within your Initiative in inches, You automatically spot the model.

Horiatio is spot on and a squig does not follow "normal" rules of HTH.

The squig may reach the model. I will dig around later 2nite and see if I can find anything to the contrary.