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PostSubject: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 10:50

He folks!

If a ghoul becomes a hero (in the standard mordheim rules), can he use weapons and armour? does he need to get the weapon master skill?

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 10:53

I'd say yes. Otherwise the undead are way too boring to play as.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 10:59

Technically no because the rules don't say that they can. I believe some people do house rule differently though. I think Kaptain D probably has a fair point.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 11:58

Our group house ruled that he can use hth weapons with Weapons Master. Just to warn you, he becomes CRAZY strong (borderline broken.)
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 13:28

From one of the early FAQs:

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Q Under the Henchmen listing for Ghouls, it says that they can never carry equipment. However, if your Ghoul gets the 'That Lad's Got Talent' advancement and you make him a Ghoul Hero, he can get Combat Skills for one of his choices. If he gets the chance to learn a new skill, can you give him Weapons Training to allow him to use weapons or is the listing about Ghoul Henchmen never using weapons final?

A The letter of the rule is that Ghouls can have NO equipment. However, so many people enjoy equipping their Ghouls that I (Tuomas) rarely point this out. I hate seeing all of those Ghoul conversions going to waste!

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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 17:13

I would allow the weapons, but misc gear not sure on. And armor is a no-no unless you houserule weapons master to allow for armor as well.
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PostSubject: Re: The Ghoul's got talent!   The Ghoul's got talent! Icon_minitimeTue 2 Aug 2011 - 18:37

OFFICIAL RULING:
They can use all misc. (all heroes can).
They can never use weapons or armour.

POPULAR RULING;
They can use all misc. (all heroes can).
They can use weapons with training skills but never armour.

However, the popular ruling makes Ghouls with Flails pretty OP with A2, T4, Cause Fear.

Therefore, I recommend stealing the Coreheim fix:
They can use all misc. (all heroes can).
They can use weapons with training skills, but suffer -1 A on profile while doing so.
And never armour.


And remember, in all cases, Shields are Armour.
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