Ninja/imperial assassins

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I like the idea, a spellcasting ninja is kind of cool, but there are a few things missing.

First of all, he needs both a hiring and upkeep fee, and a list of which types of skills he can learn.

The spells need difficulties, although really I've never thought of putting ninjas and spellcasters together.

The spells also need to be clarified, and in some cases toned down a bit.

- Do fireball and lightning strike require a "to hit" roll?
- Does whirlwind affect friend and foe? Does it affect all models within 4"? In game terms, exactly what happens to the models affected? The impression I get is that any model within 4" is flung 18" directly away from the caster, stopping only if they hit a wall or another warrior. That is a very, very powerful spell. Probably too powerful. I'd be inclined to say that it affects all models within 2", friend and foe alike, and shoots them back more like 4".
- Blinding Sunlight is an interesting idea, but also way too powerful. 20" is just a huge range for a game like Mordheim. Drop it down to 12" or so. I would also allow them to move, but maybe not run or charge (otherwise it's more or less like immobilizing a bunch of guys for up to 3 turns).

The rating boost seems too high to me, I would lower him to 15-20.

Looks like a good start though! Sorry I don't have any ideas for the last two spells.

I must agree to Shadowphx,
a magic wielding ninja doesn´t feel right.
The are assassins, silent killers no fireball using warlocks.

I would also say to go with skills and special equipment.
So smoke bombs for sneaking into cover, gas bombs to disillusionate the target (effect of stupidity), climbing claws, shuriken (throwing knives), kantana (sword), bow or short bow.

could a mod delete this topic please.
i know that a ninja is a assassin and that ninjas did not use magic but the perception of it, but it is the warhammer world, and magic is not real but warhammer wizards can use it. so why not ninja?????

thanks for pointing that out, mod please dont delete the topic.

i thought about making different types of assassin a while ago, but gave up.
so thanks for making that point, i will defenetly make them now!!

I SAY YES!!!!!!

I'll second that the ninja with magic is not a bad idea. Realistic? No. But this is the Warhammer World interpretation of a ninja assassin, and most importantly it's your interpretation, so if you have a specific character type in mind then you should go for it.

I do think the "master of disguise/assassin mage" idea that Shadow brought up sounds pretty cool, too.

Also, as one last little thing - there is a precedence for ninjas using magic in fantasy. A number of turn-based-strategy and rpg-strategy video games have ninjas as a character class, and they almost always have some form of elemental magic at their disposal (Ogre Battle and Final Fantasy Tactics are the examples that come immediately to mind).

And I'll join Myntokk. It can work either way especially in a fantasy universe. Maybe this is a specialist ninja like the Clan Eshin Sorcerer only cooler and perhaps better thought out?

Either way Jack you have floated some good ideas and you can go several directions with them. We'll all pitch in our thoughts and opinions because that's what forums are for.

Cheers!