Warhounds and Wardogs

We've gone over the difference between the a wardog (as listed in miscellaneous equipment) and warhound (as listed in the Witch Hunter roster) pretty extensively in relation to warband rating. I believe the general consensus was that yes, in spite of "couting as equipment," the wardog still adds +5 to the rating.

However, does it count as a warrior for other purposes? This came up in my playgroup during the Breakthrough scenario:

"If the attacker manages to move two or more standing warriors to within 2" of the defender’s table edge, they have broken through and he wins the game."

It seems a bit cheese for a Witch Hunter hound to count for this victory condition (since it's a warrior), but not for a mercenary dog (since it's equipment). So once and for all: is it fair to say that, aside from being lost like equipment if its master dies, a wardog in every way counts the same as a warhound?

And on a separate note, animals cannot pick up wyrdstone counters, chests, etc. Correct?

we play that wardogs are just another memberof the warband.

DRD1812 wrote:

a wardog in every way counts the same as a warhound?

That's how we play.

DRD1812 wrote:

And on a separate note, animals cannot pick up wyrdstone counters, chests, etc. Correct?

Correct

DRD1812 wrote:

We've gone over the difference between the a wardog (as listed in miscellaneous equipment) and warhound (as listed in the Witch Hunter roster) pretty extensively in relation to warband rating. I believe the general consensus was that yes, in spite of "couting as equipment," the wardog still adds +5 to the rating.

However, does it count as a warrior for other purposes? This came up in my playgroup during the Breakthrough scenario:

"If the attacker manages to move two or more standing warriors to within 2" of the defender’s table edge, they have broken through and he wins the game."

It seems a bit cheese for a Witch Hunter hound to count for this victory condition (since it's a warrior), but not for a mercenary dog (since it's equipment). So once and for all: is it fair to say that, aside from being lost like equipment if its master dies, a wardog in every way counts the same as a warhound?

Since warriors who make it to the other table edge gain additional experience (wardogs don't gain experience), and experience is downright valuable, anyone who does this is missing out (albeit by a tiny amount) on potential gain in the long-term.

I'd say that Warhounds wouldn't count as a breakthrough - I mean, their Animals, so the priority of them pushing through is quite low right?
Correct me if I'm wrong

I concur (except with Popmouth, sorry )

- Warhounds and Wardogs - tis all the same
- Count as warriors for all purposes (like the Skaven's giant rats or the beastmen's warhounds)
- you miss a lot of experience by enforcing a quick win with them
- animals can't pick up things or climb up ladders (unless explicitly stated)