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PostSubject: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeTue 12 Aug 2008 - 23:44

Hi all i thought this would be the best website to show my fishmen

basically when i saw the new blood letters the first thing i said was 'i need some of those' and the second 'they look pretty fishy'
Now my friends and i are starting a Mordheim campaign and it seemed the perfect setting to convert some fishmen

I am using pit fighter rules as they have tridents ( best weapon ever) and are combat focused with little range (bows dont realy work underwater)
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This was my prototype: basically bloodletter with no horns rounded head, skink fins on arms and a trident made from saurus spear and his old horns, oh and a tabbard from a dire avenger
I tried to add greenstuff to make a small head fin and side gill things

the rest of the gang-
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most are armed with coral swords or tridents and bucklers. I think they all need the odd armour plate on the shoulder and i tried a new hilt conversion on my leader- the one in the outstreched pose
by putting two curved nid plates on as a hilt guard

Anyway to my dilemma do they look fishy enough, i don't know
They may need bigger fins on the sides

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Or maby a new fishier head
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Lastly sorry for the bad quality pictures, they are my first and secondly thanks for any help and advice on making and improving the fishmen
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 0:13

1st off: Welcome!

2nd: I really dig your warband and vision.

This is exactly why Mordheim is such a great game.

I wish more people realized how great it is. I know we have a good group on this forum but we all know how hard it is to find hard core gamers for Mordheim.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 0:21

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1st off: Welcome!

Seconded. Welcome!

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2nd: I really dig your warband and vision.

Again. What a crazy cool idea! I'm really curious to see how this warband turns out in the end. A very unique and inspired idea. I love it! I imagine them looking totally awesome with some scallops, pearls and other small fluffy items.. really really great!

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I wish more people realized how great it is. I know we have a good group on this forum but we all know how hard it is to find hard core gamers for Mordheim.

Amen to all points.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 0:25

Nice warband! You have a lot of imagination! Smile
IMHO they look fishy enough. You could maybe add some "fishy" effect when you paint them, like water reflections or small areas of their bodies covered by algaes... but right now they're great!
Can't wait to see them painted!

Oh and yeah: welcome to the forum! cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 1:36

Fishman wrote:
do they look fishy enough?

I think the paint job will be the key to making them into fish. They look awesome, and your conversions are sweet. I love the elbow fins. All you need is a sweet fishy color scheme, and you'll be gold!

(And Welcome to the Forum! thanks for sharing. I agree that you chose the best website to post them on!)
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 1:54

Don't forget you can add stuff to their bases like anchors (i know they will be out of water), treasure chests, and etc.

Check out this link as someone made some "fishy" Orcs.

https://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/battle-reports-and-fluff-f11/luncheim-in-manchester-the-flame-on-guys-t541.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 8:26

Welcome to the Forum Fishman!

I had a genuine "WTF!" moment when I saw these - I love them and I could NOT work out what models you'd used! Laughing

Then I read they were Bloodletters - a genius idea btw - I would never have thought of using them!

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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 10:14

WELCOME ABOARD!

WarbossKurgan wrote:
I had a genuine "WTF!" moment when I saw these - I love them and I could NOT work out what models you'd used! Laughing

Then I read they were Bloodletters - a genius idea btw - I would never have thought of using them!

Ditto on both counts. Not being too keen on Demons I REALLY like the "Fishman" approach. They look Spectacular; very nice conversion work & imagineering. They certainly look fishy to moi [ Suspect ]; may be you could drape a bit of seaweed on the lads to emphasize where they are coming from [check an aquarium shop for plastic plants].

For some short ranged missile support, you could opt for the Skink style & add some javelins/harpoons & nets. It's kind of poetic justice.

WELL DONE; I look forward to seeing them in living color!
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 11:41

Well done! Good idea for those conversions, they look really good!
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 11:46

I think the Bloodletters are turning out to be the new flaggelants, if you get my drift Laughing

Rigtheous conversions, and with a fishy and slimy paintjob, they'll be just perfect.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 12:50

Great job! you've deffinetaly nailed these convertions! plus, I really like the whole theme and Idea... choice of weapons is great too! maybe give them some nets as well? (which they tore from fishermen after brutally finishing them off?)
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 23:22

Wow, that is impressive feat of imaginative modeling!

I think the prototype head looks awesome and if you make those side gills/fins on them all and add webbing between all their claws they would look perfect!

I might have to steal this idea for a Deep One warband myself!

They look just like the creature from the black lagoon, which is the look you should go for!
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Blue and green or aqua should be the main colors on your palate as i see it.


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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 13 Aug 2008 - 23:32

Creature of the Black Lagoon,.... that is what I was thinking when I saw his warband....thanks for jogging my memory as i kept thinking Swamp Thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug 2008 - 1:34

Have just tried converting the heros with unique fins as i thought my fishmen would have an easy way of distiguishing rank by the size of the fins, but i dont know if some of them are over the top.
Leader:
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Veterans
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And finally is this head fin ok or should i try and green stuff them all?
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And on the above picture ,should they have tails? my friends say no but i dont know

Thanks for all the input

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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug 2008 - 2:23

yes, they can have tails if it looks right.

The river that runs through Mordheim is polluted and either fish or men that jumped in the water after the comet striking the City started to mutate.

Maybe the Veterans could be painted a certain color to note who they are. You also don't want to add too much stuff.

It is a hard balance.

Keep up the great work and photos.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug 2008 - 3:05

I think the green stuff fins are the best looking. I notices that your fins point forward, most fish have fins that point back, so the are more hydrodynamic.

I do not like the tails personally, it makes them look to much like Lizardmen. If you do tails they should be more fish-like, and less serpent-like.

Oh and i see no reason you couldn't use the Ogre pitfighter, model him as a sea troll, lesser cthulhu spawn, sharkman, giant squid monster. Whatever you choose i'm sure that the underwater realm has it's ogre equivalent!
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug 2008 - 10:06

I would tend to agree with Pathfinder; i.e., your Green Stuff work is superior to the add on parts. I REALLY like the idea of the larger fins on the Heroes; it seems an appropriate way of denoting the leaders in a natural way. Reaper makes a Wereshark that you might consider for an Ogre.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 14 Aug 2008 - 10:46

On the subject of thier fins, i imagine them to swim with thier arms outstreched so their fins on thier arms are pointing the right way , by tonight i should have all fishmen greenstuffed and by tomorrow they will be undercoated

But i will not be painting them right away as i want to paint them well, so i will be painting a test saurus (i have a spair) in the colours i want then will post it maby tomorrow

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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 20 Aug 2008 - 3:41

These are amazing! What a great idea. Congratulations! I cannot wait to see them painted. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 27 Aug 2008 - 23:17

Very sorry for the lack of updates ive just lost track of the project as 2 guys from the group i mordheim with are away so focus kind of shifted.
but just finished making 1 more fishman for in the campaign and greenstuffing all their gills,fins and webbed hands
i will have pictures tomorrow and will then spray and paint.
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 28 Aug 2008 - 9:55

Cool. Thanks for the update Fishman.

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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 28 Aug 2008 - 11:13

Fishman wrote:
i will have pictures tomorrow and will then spray and paint.

OH BABY!cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 28 Aug 2008 - 14:34

Since it is somewhat related and may serve as a great inspiration I thought I share this link I found when browing the Chaos Dwarfs Online website:

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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeThu 28 Aug 2008 - 16:27

@cianty, He Of Impeccable Taste: OH BABY, That's cool stuff!
I LOVE the Tenacle Faced Spell Slingers, AND the Gigundo Crabs are incredible [they'd look great in the Luncheim collection]. The Manta Ray riding fishguy ROCKS! As does the Mage hovering above the ground/seabed cross-legged. EXCELENT POST as always!thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Fishmen   fishmen - Fishmen Icon_minitimeWed 5 Nov 2008 - 2:36

Really awesome. I prefer the Bloodletter head to the Lizarman one. Another little thing you can add is webbing between their fingers, using Greenstuff.
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