PROMOTIONS AND UNIT CLASSIFICATIONS

so i have a question about when a henchmen is promoted to hero

lets say i have a BEASTMAN in a possessed warband get promoted

can i hired another BEASTMAN henchmen to fill the void he left in my group of 3? the rules say i can only hire 3 beastmen, but if he gets promoted does it take restriction away giving me 4 beastmen?

this is only a specific example. what i'm really getting at is, does the promotion take away the basic classification of a unit?

alternative does the promotion of a hero to a leader (apon death of old leader) take away his classification? "ORC BIG UN' to WARBOSS" can i hire another BIG UN to take his place.

WHAT about magic caster leaders? there was an ademdim rule that said that if your leader is the magic caster, the hero who took his place can now cast spells of the leader in lue of his death. Does this now take the classification of that hero away leading you to hire a new one in its place

EXAMPLE MAGISTRATE (dead) possessed takes its place and is now a magic casting possessed, CAN i hire another possessed hero giving me 3 possessed?

did i explain this correctly? can you guys understand my thoughts here?

Yes I can understand and this is a frequently asked question. (I do not understand what an "ademdim rule" is, but I can work around it.)

The answer is, as you suspect, that a model remains what it is upon promotion it does not become something else because it is a hero. Or because it is now a hero that is a leader/wizard.

Naturally your group can house rule something else, but it is a house rule not an official rule.

Von Kurst has it right. Your Beastmen stay Beastmen even as heroes and you cannot get an extra beastmen henchmen. Likewise your Big'Un is still a BIg'Un even if it became a leader and you cannot hire an extra Big'Un hero. The death of a leader (especially in warbands with 4 starting heroes) can be a really big deal due to the need to get THREE henchmen promoted to fill up the complement of 6 heroes.

tuxedokman wrote:

WHAT about magic caster leaders? there was an ademdim rule that said that if your leader is the magic caster, the hero who took his place can now cast spells of the leader in lue of his death.

He can't cast the spells from the leader right away, he has to learn them with his next skill advances. He can then choose to roll on the spelltable for his warband.

some sad news for me and a few others operating outside of the box

I imagine what game balance there is in Mordheim would be screwed if one could suddenly have a Warband with 3 Possessed and 5 Gor's (2 of them heroes) Or for that matter, an Osterlander warband, slowly replacing every hero slot with ogres