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PostSubject: Priest of Morr   Sat 15 Aug 2009 - 5:39

In reading Town Cryer 12, I came across the Priest of Morr. I've seen him also presented in various scenarios, like "A Stake in Time Saves Ryan" and "Save the Dead." However, TC12 has him presented as a "Mercenary Hero," and like TC8's Priest of Ulric, the Priest of Morr replaces a Mercenary warband hero. In other words, he's a regular warband member, and not a Hired Sword.

I found the original discussions on the Yahoo Mordheim group back in 1999, when the Priest was first designed by Todd Estabrook. At that time, list participants discussed the Priest, agreed that it was a great idea, and Enrique Durand was inspired by it to produce the Priest of Ulric.

The next year, when Killer Shrike re-envisoned the Priest of Morr, he placed the Priest as a hired sword - he mentioned getting his ideas from Tommy Punk, so I don't know whether Tommy actually made this transition, or whether Killer Shrike did. In Moussillon, the Priest of Morr is also listed as a Hired Sword. However, I don't find any discussion about why this transition took place.

To add to the options, the Yahoo Mordheim list presents Garymort (aka Garymorr) asthe sole (pun intended) Priest of Morr in Mordheim, more akin to a Dramatis Persona (this was actually done prior to Todd Estabrook's contribution, and then revived in fluff much later after the hero Priest discussion was off the list's radar).

So, while I very much like using the Priest of Ulric as a Middenheimer hero, I'm not sure that the Priest of Morr fits in the same way. His allegiance to a bunch of wyrdstone-crazed adventurers would be tenuous at best, and I've never read of anyone actually including the Priest of Morr in their warband. Have any of you Mordheim longbearders ever seen a Marienburger or Rieklander warband with a Priest of Morr hero? If so, how did it turn out, and what are your opinions for him - hero, hired sword, or Garymort the Dramatis Persona?
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sat 15 Aug 2009 - 8:23

He is really a Hero, he can replace a Champion in your warband.

Albiet a unique hero option but an option the same.

I do like the idea of a hired sword also.

The TC article is the standing definition or classification of him.

Killer Shrike a good site but fan based only.

The Yahoo Mordheim group is an excellent resource for info (I am the MOD there also) but the TC article out weighs the Yahoo Group (Gary Morts idea). A little complicated but that is how it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sat 15 Aug 2009 - 19:15

I do understand the precedence of the TC over fan websites and the Yahoo list, but I'm still wondering: has anyone actually ever used the Priest of Morr as a hero in a Marienburger or Reiklander warband? If so, how did it turn out (in other words, was it worth the swap)?
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 0:36

I think the problem is that very few players are even aware of this option...

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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 7:11

I agree with cianty. I've only seen the priest of Morr used once and then as a Hired Sword. The guy did a nice conversion for it, but that's all I remember.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 8:14

I believe I had used before.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 18:41

Does anyone have a list of more Heroes additions so I dont have to dig through all the TCs looking for them?

Priest of Morr: TC12
Wolf Priest of Ulric: TC8
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 18:49

Second question. How much does a Scythe cost? It doesnt have a value in that TC, the main rule book or Mordhimer.com's master equipment list.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 19:49

I never liked the idea of a Priest of Morr working as a Hero for Reiklanders and Marienburgers. The rules that he couldn't work with Sigmarites (Witch Hunters and Sisters) doesn't fit with a lot of the fluff. As a hired sword he fits a lot better, especially if he was hireable by non-evil warbands. My group uses Priests of Morr this way.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Sun 16 Aug 2009 - 20:43

Our local group agrees with you aegrist113, and that's how we're going to use the Priest of Morr.

Da Bank, even though the TC officially takes precedence over the fan changes, ya gotta admit that the hero-swap for the Priest of Morr seems to have left no impression in even the knowledgeable, like yourself. If it was a good swap, I think some would have more positive memories/stories to share about this Priest.

smoore, since the scythe is effectively a halberd with different fluff, we're pricing it at 10gc. On our group's master equipment list, we did assign a rarity of 8 due to its special construction ("...of heavier manufacture, and designed to reap warriors rather than wheat."). I also don't remember seeing any other "hero swaps" for official warbands in the TCs/Annual (I read through them all recently), however, I'm about to compile all of the hired swords and DPs together, so if I missed any previously, I should uncover them soon. I also just went through the TC index at http://www.gamehobby.net/subject_indexes/subject_mordheim_town_cryer.html again, and don't find any other "hero swaps."
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Mon 17 Aug 2009 - 9:32

I know, the hired sword is a better option but this hired sword option was never talked about being official. I believe I used him (HS) option back in 2004 but I believe I had such heavy losses I couldn't afford him again.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Mon 17 Aug 2009 - 10:13

Thanks wyldhunt I basiclly came to the same conclusion and also scanned that index and didnt see any others. I didnt think about the rarity however.
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Thu 20 Aug 2009 - 16:32

'Get me a Priest!'

Dear all.

Regarding this fascinating topic, Da Bank has laid it down pretty much in terms of your current options.

Cianty hit the nail on the head by saying that the information is out there but too many folk just aren't familiar enough with it. Trouble is that you have to rummage about a bit to find what you need and this is not really convenient for most. Sad

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My understanding is that Priests are a very specialist type of Hero, as
opposed to being treated as Hired Swords. In my humble opinion this
should be reflected in the rules of the game because it provides an
exciting dynamic in campaign adventures. This encourages narrative game
play in such a fashion that it becomes a true likeness to countless
examples of classic Black Library story telling.

For your information, at least for anyone who cares, now that I have completed my treatise* on the blessings & the curses of the Ruinous Powers, my next assignment involves making Priests that are used by the various accepted Cults in the Empire more accessable to fans of Mordheim.

Regards,

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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Thu 20 Aug 2009 - 19:00

@Werekin..sounds great!
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Mon 7 Sep 2009 - 16:21

Any body have any thoughts on what model makes an appropriate Priest of Morr? I was thinking maybe the old Amethyst wizard from the 5th Edition empire lines. Any thoughts (assuming that converting is not an option as this is for model collection purposes)?
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PostSubject: Re: Priest of Morr   Mon 7 Sep 2009 - 18:04

The Empire Wizard box makes for a great Priest of Morr. The options are amazing.
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