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PostSubject: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sat 22 Nov 2008 - 16:00

Hello everyone!

I have this crazy idea for Mordheim a few years now. But now I have the miniatures to really get cracking with it, so here it is:

Pocket / mini Mordheim (i need a better title, any suggestions? feel free to post!)

Here's the rough sketch:
The scale is approximate 50% of standard GW Mordheim and I use 1:72 miniatures (Revell, and the new Caesar Fantasy mini's! goblins, orcs, dwarfs, undead, elves and adventurers! Pictures will come in the painting section!)

The miniatures are in fixed positions with fixed equipments, so i'll just have to have enough variation.

This has pro's and con's:

Pro's:
Limited choice, so speeds up warband building
No assembly required
One time painting, play anytime.
Limited Cheesyness

Con's:
Limited choice,
More static positions.
You have to paint loads of mini's. (for me it's a con Crying or Very sad coz i have to paint em all! tongue)

So you'll have a lot of mini's to choose from. For the humans i have 3 per equipment config. so 3 guys with spear, 3 guys with xbow, 3 guys with xbow and sword etc.

and an extra one from each config will be tagged as leader to choose from + some special models from the adventurers set.

The others will have a small dot on the edge of their base (which i will cut out myself, nice round bases) dot's will be ranging from 1 - 3. so you can easily identify which is who.

More details will come later.
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I'm starting with one of the two human warbands that will be available. Pictures will come soon (I hope)

Both of the human warbands will have a very broad selection, which also include bears, dogs etc. so you can make almost any human warband. (except witch hunters, no xbow pistols silent)

The other warbands that I'll make one of are:

* Pit fighters (using gladiator models)
* Orcs 'n Goblins (Caesar fantasy Miniatures)
* Dwarfs (Caesar fantasy Miniatures)
* Elves, not sure which rules, but i think the shadow warriors one (Caesar fantasy Miniatures)
* Vampire Warband, from the MH book, with skeletons instead of zombies (Caesar fantasy Miniatures)

7 warbands in total.

I will rewrite some rules from Mordheim. Which I'll post here.


A lot of text, a very dared and crazy idea..

So what do you guys think?

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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sat 22 Nov 2008 - 20:51

I always liked the idea of skeletons and in our gaming groups we let them play. You know we didn't want to be the non diverse gaming group. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 1:02

Thanks for your reply Da Bank!

Here are some pictures about what miniatures i'm talking about:


at the bottom of this links page


These are real life size. (approx)


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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 13:43

Wow! 1:72 has seriously com along since I last used any. (In my pre-gaming days.)
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 14:35

Indeed Chad! They made major improvements! cheers

These miniatures got in production near the end of 2007 / begin 2008 IIRC!

If it weren't for these I think I would never have started 1:72 mordheim..

Small update!

For the bases I'm using a five eurocent piece! just tried it out this evening and they are perfect! 2 cm diameter AND weighted! so they do not tip over! (not to mention: cheap and directly ready for use!) I'm excited! bounce

Are you guys interested in Work in Progress pictures?
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 14:49

Paluke wrote:
Are you guys interested in Work in Progress pictures?

I am!
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 6:57

Thanks Eliazar! thumbsup

I have made a new thread in the painting and Modeling section, with some Work in Progress Pictures!

http://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/painting-and-modelling-f3/pocket-mordheim-172-miniatures-in-the-works-t1030.htm#14746

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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 8:36

I'd like to see some WIPs. But wouldn't one-cent pieces work better?
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 12:21

i've tried, but i wanted a larger base for stability. and to make all units look more even Wink thanks for the suggestion! Another thing.. one cent pieces arent available anymore...
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 13:27

just curious about the 1:72 mordheim... what is the regular mordheim? 1:??
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 14:34

last time i measured somewhere around 1:48, but the mini's are disproportional.. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 14:53

Mordheim is 28mm = 1:65.

25mm = 1:73

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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 19:14

Warhammer originally called itself 25mm, but has been sneaking closer and closer to 28mm each release.

Are you keeping the measurements scale? 4" movement and everything? Or are you scaling it down some? It doesn't make a major difference for Warhammer, but when it comes to climbing a 1" tall wall that is larger than your miniature, it might make some sense to change a few things.
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 5:22

Actually, it is more along the lines of 30mm now.

15mm is an othe rpossible scale for a reduced size mordheim if you dare Wink The "pronbel" with using those scales is that most minis have some kind of obvious armour, so you need to rewrite some parts of the mpordheim rules to make them worthwile as troop choices (basically reduce the cost of armor and make shields better, most of the time)

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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 8:48

And an (unmounted) pistolier is a full 25% taller than an Empire Militia model! So you get this sort of sixe difference: :magister: Cathayan Monk 2
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 10:53

not to mention the old night goblins and the new skull pass goblins...
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 12:51

cianty wrote:
Mordheim is 28mm = 1:65.

25mm = 1:73

So... 1:72 is only slightly smaller than what 'our' current models are? If so, how much room are you gonna save with this "travelling edition"?
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 13:20

Paluke, perhaps you could post a pic of one of your small minis next to an ordinary GW mini?
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 13:35

Eliazar wrote:
Paluke, perhaps you could post a pic of one of your small minis next to an ordinary GW mini?

Yeah, that'd be a good idea too!
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 13:39

I think the big advantage will be in their skinnyness. But I can get an entire warband into a Min-Maglite box...
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 14:31

great idea!

Here is the comparison!



(one other thing, the 1:72 are a LOT cheaper..)


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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 14:41

Look it is Mini Me.
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 15:39

Da Bank wrote:
Look it is Mini Me.

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Mon 22 Mar 2010 - 5:12

I've done more research and forgotten about this thread, until Bean965 mentioned it.

The scale of 1:72 mordheim is 65% of normal mordheim.

48" (4 foot) would translate into 31.2" rounded down = 31" table Smile (for the metric guys its 80cm)

movement would also be 2.6" rounded up is 3" charge 6"
Dwarfs move 2" (1.95"rounded up) and charge 4"

So i will be releasing a "booklet" with the new rules, based on vanilla mordheim
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PostSubject: Re: Pocket Mordheim / Mini Mordheim (scale 1:72)   Fri 13 Aug 2010 - 16:38

Paluke wrote:
great idea!

Here is the comparison!



(one other thing, the 1:72 are a LOT cheaper..)

I am eager to start collecting "smaller" mini's Because I want lots of terrain and I want to be able to store it. I have one large modular dungeon now, but I want a range of different locations to fight in as well as fortresses and towns and I want those to represent different races. If I keep building terrain at "30mm" scale I will quickly run out of room to keep it.

I cannot believe the creep I am seeing above. "30mm"!? Somebody should tell GW they should make "28 mm" or "25mm" figures again. Is this a conscious decision to make old stock redundant over time?

Anyway I want loads of cheap mini's and don't mind losing detail if I can buy 40 to 50 figures for the price of one 30mm one. I can see my dungeon overflowing with creeps already .

Besides dungeon crawlers and skirmish I want to get some HOTT and crossfire type games started and this requires stands of at least three figures per base.

Thank you for the links and research.
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