[Beastmen] Massive Strength

Subject: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 13:42

Hi! It's me again with more doubts Very Happy

In the Beastmen warband from EIF. Appears this:

Code:: Shaggy Hide
The bestial hero is titanic in size and may use a double-handed weapon in one hand.

Then on the corrections and erratas of EIF says:

Code:: Page 74, Shaggy Hide skill
Replace the existing definition with the following:
“The Beastman’s massively shaggy hide acts as armour, deflecting sword strokes and protecting him from harm. The model gains a 6+ Armour Save that can be combined with other armour as normal.”

And on the Ultimate FAQ from Mordheimer says:

Code:: Q: Skill Massive Strength. A Beastman Hero is titanic in size and may use a
double-handed weapon in one hand. Now, read literally, the means ONLY
Double-Handed Weapons (+2 Str, Strike Last) can be used one-handed. But, is it
intended that other two-hand weapons (Halberd, Flail, etc) can be used
One-handed with this skill?
A: No, those weapons rely more on skill. This skill simply represents the
brutish strength of the said Beastman. [Tuomas, E-groups Mordheim mail list]

So... Does this FAQ suggest that there is a skill called Massive Strength that was forgotten in EIF or did that skill disappear?

Any help appreciated.
Thanks guys!

Subject: Re: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 13:53

There is a lot of stuff on The Mordheimer that is out of date. Massive Strength was the original name for Shaggy Hide skill.

As with all things, the errata takes precedence so Shaggy Hide now grants an armour save instead.

Subject: Re: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 16:16

For the official rules always refer to the Rulebook (which is updates and downloadable from the GW site) and the Empire in Flames book (which has not been updated) and apply the corrections from the Rules Review. Everything else is likely to be out of date (like the Mordheimer stuff in this case). The Rules Review, EIF, Annual and Rulebook are the most current sources.

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Subject: Re: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 23:23

Yes, the Mordheimer site is wrong. That shaggy hide is from TC7, which was out of touch with reality and was in the original beastman warband rules.

Go with the errata as noted by Cianty and you will be fine.

Subject: Re: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Wed 10 Oct 2012 - 9:58

damn,
so the skill to wield a two-handed weapon one handed is gone completly?

Subject: Re: [Beastmen] Massive Strength Wed 10 Oct 2012 - 12:48

Yes it has been completely removed from the Beastmen warband rules.

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