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PostSubject: Leadership Value of 11   Mon 29 Sep 2014 - 16:02

A leader with 10 Leadership (Dwarves, Vampires, etc.) using a War Horn; does that bring the Ld value to 11?

I'm in a bit of a rush, so cannot check it myself, but don't know if there's anything about it. Perhaps something about no stats being able to go above 10 somewhere?
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 2:48

Max Ld for vampires and dwarves is 10, yes. I don't remember anything being said about staats going over 10 anywhere. Annual says only this about the warhorn:

Mordheim Annual 2002 wrote:
A war horn may be used once per battle at the beginning of any turn. It allows the warband to increase its Leadership by +1. The effect will last from the start of one turn to the start of the next. The war horn can be used just before a warband is about to take a Rout test.

There's no mention about exceeding one's racial maximums, but it's not the only item to do so. A similar example: you can have a human with S4 (again, racial max) use a two-handed weapon (+2S) exceeding the racial maximum as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:35

I know in other GW games, no stat may increase above 10 for any reason. Not sure if that's part of this game.
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:16

I don't think that it is mentioned in the rules anywhere of a hard limit for Leadership in Mordheim. Other GW games could be used as a guide if desired but elde's suggestion is fine for me. The caveat is that a roll of 12 should always fail regardless of Leadership. On that thought though, allowing Leadership 11 would be quite powerful because rolling a 12 doesn't happen very often.
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Wed 1 Oct 2014 - 5:09

Damn. Dwarves just got even more competetive, despite being one of the most competetive ones. Need this for my Vampire as well, failed my last rout test at 11 Razz though as old Warhammer players someone will probably suggest House ruling it ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Wed 1 Oct 2014 - 14:29

I also learned something new there, rereading the warhorn rules. I had always thought, it's just the horn blower who gets the Ld bonus, but it's actually the whole warband. Suddenly, the horn is even more valuable.
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PostSubject: Re: Leadership Value of 11   Fri 3 Oct 2014 - 16:28

elde wrote:
I also learned something new there, rereading the warhorn rules. I had always thought, it's just the horn blower who gets the Ld bonus, but it's actually the whole warband. Suddenly, the horn is even more valuable.

It is very much indeed. Recommended it to my Orc friend, since he kept failing Stupidity rolls on his Troll. I am going to regret that Very Happy

Found something interesting in the Kislevite warband, which could be used as a guideline:

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Vodka
In game terms, vodka is a one-use item of equipment that a Kislevite Hero may give to the warband before the start of the game. Every warrior in the warband receives +1 Leadership (up to a maximum of 10) for that game.
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