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PostSubject: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Thu 15 May 2014 - 13:05

Hi,


I thought about the death of a leader.

As far as I know, there are two warbands, which are allowed to rebuy their leader, which would be Undead and Lizardmen.

Are there other warbands, where this is possible?


Are there any warbands, where the new leader gains any special abilities (except from the "leader"ability itself)?

I thought of reading about the amazons that when the priestress dies, the new leader gets access to the Amazon rituals?

Any more warbands where this is possible?



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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Thu 15 May 2014 - 13:28

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If the leader of a Sisters of Sigmar, Possessed or
Carnival of Chaos warband dies then their successor
will be entitled to learn to use magic in their stead.
The new leader may roll for a prayer/spell from the
appropriate list, instead of rolling on the Advance
table, the first time they are eligible for an advance.
After this they are considered to be a wizard/use
prayers as appropriate for their warband and use the
Advance table as normal.

Not certain of all the expirmental/unofficial warbands out there but Undead are the only ones that may rehire a leader, the vampire. The others just get the highest leadership score hero to step up.
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Fri 16 May 2014 - 5:47

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As far as I know, there are two warbands, which are allowed to rebuy their leader, which would be Undead and Lizardmen. Are there other warbands, where this is possible?
It varies from warband to warband but most unofficial/experimental Undead warbands may. And yes the Lizardmen may as well.

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I thought of reading about the amazons that when the priestress dies, the new leader gets access to the Amazon rituals?
If you did, you should note where. I haven't read anything in either warband that alludes to a new leader gaining access to the rituals. The rule Mike quotes above lists the three 'official' warbands that have a magic using leader. Since the rules are written with 'official' warbands in mind, it would not be much of a stretch to apply them to other 'unofficial' warbands like Amazons.
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Tue 20 May 2014 - 11:52

Emissary from Battle Monks of Cathay can be rehired
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Wed 28 May 2014 - 21:12

Our resident dark elf player claims that darkelves can re-hire a highborn but it takes a game for him to arrive from naggaroth. (it isn't written down, but he has read alot of warhammer fantasy books do to with dark elves).
tomb kings can re hire a mummy.
Carnival of chaos can re-hire a carnival master
Lizardmen and vampires as mentioned.
Restless dead can rehire a liche.
thats all i can think of atm
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 17:30

What absolute tosh. Dark Elf leaders cannot be rehired.
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Mon 2 Jun 2014 - 1:06

The Dark Elf player seems like a rules lawyer type of a player, incorporating rules from other similar games to Mordheim. It doesn't read anywhere that you can rehire the highborn, but if your group wants to make it a house rule, go ahead.

Carnival of Chaos can not rehire the Carnival Master either. There is nothing in the warband rules about it, neither in the errata. Only the Vampire from the Undead warband has been mentioned there.
Errata wrote:
OFFICIAL Mordheim ERRATA: Page 117, Death of a Leader; Replace the last
sentence of the second paragraph (“In the case of Undead warbands…”) with:
“You can buy a Vampire after the next game, at which point the Necromancer will
step down (whether he wants to or not) and lose the Leader skill.”

If the Carnival Master dies, his successor is entitled to spells, according to the rules. Here's a snippet from the errata. Perhaps this was mixed up with the rehiring?
Errata wrote:
OFFICIAL Mordheim ERRATA: Page 117, Death of a Leader; Add the following
paragraph at the end of this section:
“If the leader of a Sisters of Sigmar, Possessed or Carnival of Chaos warband dies
then their successor will be entitled to learn to use magic in their stead. The new
leader may choose a prayer/spell from the appropriate list, instead of rolling on the
Advance table, the first time they are eligible for an advance. After this they are
considered to be a wizard/use prayers as appropriate for their warband and use the
advance table as normal.”
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Wed 18 Jun 2014 - 16:45

From very early days we made it a house rule that any warband could replace a slain captain.
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Fri 20 Jun 2014 - 15:51

You big softy. Not so exciting when you snaffle a medicine chest then eh.
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Sun 22 Jun 2014 - 2:29

What about this:

You can rebuy leaders, but you have to play at least one game without the new leader and he always starts with more experience than the older leader had?
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Tue 24 Jun 2014 - 1:53

Why would/should he start with more exp. than the previous?
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Tue 24 Jun 2014 - 2:20

To weaken the leader each time he has to be rebought?
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Tue 24 Jun 2014 - 6:16

Ah, so more exp. without the advancements. Gotcha  Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Which leaders can be rebought? Which get special skills?   Tue 24 Jun 2014 - 9:51

Yeah exactly... Like he missed more advances than the old one...
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