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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Wed 30 Jan 2008 - 1:32

drug-addicted orks!!!

that's sooo cool !

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Wed 30 Jan 2008 - 18:18

1) Yeah its true, I'll remove 2 sword and buy 1 additional dog. Thanks for the tip!

2) Even though it might be usefull to split henchmens in as many group as you can, for clarity sack, it's not recommanded. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 6:35

Black Orcs can get Heavy Armour (in the Nemesis Crown PDF), but regular Orcs can't and shouldn't be allowed it.
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PostSubject: Skaven Warband   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 6:36

Hi everyone, im looking at building a Skaven warband (i already play skaven in BB, so why not in mordheim too). With very limited Mordheim experience (ive only ever played 2 games) im unsure how to start them. Heres what ive come up with so far.

Assassin Adept - Throwing Stars, Sword - 85gc
Black Skaven - Sling, Sword - 52gc
Black Skaven - Sling, Sword - 52gc
Eshin Sorcerer - Sword - 55gc
Night Runner - Sling, Club - 25gc
Night Runner - Sling, Club - 25gc

Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc

Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc

Total Cost - 494gc

Ive gone for numbers, as i do with my Blood Bowl team, any thoughts and feedback would be great.

Cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 7:41

Welcome Zoglug!

I like your list.

However I would give the assassin 2 hand weapons. The assassin is your strongest model (S=4) so you should maximise his attacks. It would be a shame to just roll one dice instead of two. If possible I'd even give all the heroes 2 hand weapons (I know, they have daggers, but those are not strong enough).

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 7:46

Hey zoglug! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 8:06

Thanks for the advice Tom and hello there Kurgan! I hope you know this list is being specially taliored to kick fish butt! oh and ug ugh ugg's butt too! I never got round to playing much/any Mordheim when the campaign was running so id like to start now! Hopefully, ill have more chance painting a Mordheim band than i do painting a Warhammer army.

Assassin Adept - Throwing Stars, 2 x Sword - 95gc
Black Skaven - Sling, 2 x Sword - 62gc
Black Skaven - Sling, 2 x Sword - 62gc
Eshin Sorcerer - 2 x Sword - 65gc
Night Runner - Sling, 2 x Club - 28gc
Night Runner - Sling, 2 x Club - 28gc

Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc


Total Cost - 500gc - 14 models
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 9:26

The Fishmen will be ready for you!

Are you going to be able to get to Zelophahad's to play lunchtime games? (I can't remember where you work in relation to the city centre of Morkchester! Embarassed )
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 9:44

I work near Primark, so it may be an option to play during some lunch times. The aim at the moment is to get a warband up and running rather than keep proxying models. So a few models im watching on flea bay, a box of night runners and a drybrush i should be good to go!
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 10:48

zoglug wrote:
flea bay

Good one! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 12:29

I work in polson... can I come to ur lunch mordheim parties?

please?

I'm cool too guys... right? guys?
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 14:25

zoglug wrote:
Assassin Adept - Throwing Stars, 2 x Sword - 95gc
Black Skaven - Sling, 2 x Sword - 62gc
Black Skaven - Sling, 2 x Sword - 62gc
Eshin Sorcerer - 2 x Sword - 65gc
Night Runner - Sling, 2 x Club - 28gc
Night Runner - Sling, 2 x Club - 28gc

Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Verminkin - Sling, Club, Dagger - 27gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Giant Rat - 15gc
Total Cost - 500gc - 14 models

A second sword doesn't do anything so you waste 10 gc. I don't agree with Tom, but I'm sure he was thinking about claws Smile. The best weapon combinations for your heroes are:
- dagger n dagger
- sword n dagger
- claws
- envenomed claws
...because you can't use maces Sad [you must remove the ones on the night guys too Razz]
I'd go with claws on 2 S4 guys and sword and dagger on the others.

Remember that S4 + dagger = no penalty!

My 2 cents ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 15:03

Konqueror wrote:
A second sword doesn't do anything so you waste 10 gc.

How is a second sword a waste of money? It's the cheapest option to avoid taking a dagger!

Konqueror wrote:
Remember that S4 + dagger = no penalty!

EXCUSE ME?! Very Happy A dagger gives +1 to armour save to the enemy. So if he had a 5+ your strengh 4 would normally reduce that to 6+. If you are wielding a dagger however, it goes right up to 5+ again.

It is true true that you can save the 10gc at the beginning. But I would buy a second sword (or even better: weeping blades) as soon as you can after that.

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The best weapon combinations for your heroes are [...] claws

Yeah... It's the best combination is you want to lose the ability to shoot your sling Very Happy

No seriously: assassin with claws? No thanks. He has a I=5 which is the best you can get for climbing-initiative tests (a 1 always misses anyway!). So adding the claw's +1 to Initiative bonus for climbing is therefore obsolete. Claws are a bad deal if you ask me, since it costs you your shooting ability ("Cumbersome" rule for claws) and is expensive. If you have cash to burn, buy weeping blades!

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 15:26

Admin Tom wrote:
Konqueror wrote:
A second sword doesn't do anything so you waste 10 gc.

How is a second sword a waste of money? It's the cheapest option to avoid taking a dagger!


Konqueror wrote:
Remember that S4 + dagger = no penalty!

EXCUSE ME?! Very Happy A dagger gives +1 to armour save to the enemy. So if he had a 5+ your strengh 4 would normally reduce that to 6+. If you are wielding a dagger however, it goes right up to 5+ again.

It is true true that you can save the 10gc at the beginning. But I would buy a second sword (or even better: weeping blades) as soon as you can after that.

Come on NOBODY except some dwarves uses armors during the first games of a campaign. Even meeting such an opponent, you should kill him fast enough sending in more people.
10 gc are half a skaven... Evil or Very Mad

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Konqueror wrote:

The best weapon combinations for your heroes are [...] claws

Yeah... It's the best combination is you want to lose the ability to shoot your sling Very Happy

No seriously: assassin with claws? No thanks. He has a I=5 which is the best you can get for climbing-initiative tests (a 1 always misses anyway!). So adding the claw's +1 to Initiative bonus for climbing is therefore obsolete. Claws are a bad deal if you ask me, since it costs you your shooting ability ("Cumbersome" rule for claws) and is expensive. If you have cash to burn, buy weeping blades!

Yeah seriously forgot the cumbersome rule, my bad ^^. (I surely wasn't thinkin' at the climbing ability Razz). The list should be
-daggerx2
-sword and dagger
-weeping blades (I will never understand why weeping blades aren't cumbersome O_o)
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Thu 31 Jan 2008 - 20:33

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I will never understand why weeping blades aren't cumbersome

I guess because they are basically normal swords with poison (or wyrdstone built into them) Elf

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 0:39

Thanks for that rundown on the Claws... I never thought about it that way... very good points.

My only remaining reason to get claws for my assassin is the "bad-assness" becaues they are FREAKING bad ass! So rad.... anyway... I don't know if I can tear myself away from giving my assassin claws... hmmm

We'll see soon enough I guess
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 1:34

Nice discussion guys, certainly given me a lot to think about. Ill have a think and a play about with the list, and post something up later.

Also wondering about this:

Konqueror wrote:
...because you can't use maces Sad [you must remove the ones on the night guys too Razz]

Thought i could take 2 of these Night Runners?
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 2:57

Don't forget to factor in that Art of Silent Death works only with Fighting Claws...

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 3:19

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I work in polson... can I come to ur lunch mordheim parties?

please?

I'm cool too guys... right? guys?
*Looks at Ashton's location*
Of course you can Ashton! (But to be honest I'm dead jealous of your super-long lunch breaks!) See you on Monday! tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 4:55

This is another list factoring in the Weeping Blades which look cool due to the Sin having poison on his blades. (i dont think there very good, 30pts for Black Lotus poison.....i cant even find what it does!) but it means dropping the twin swords from the rest of the dudes.

Assassin Adept - Throwing Stars, Weeping Blades - 125gc
Black Skaven - Dagger, Sword, Sling - 52gc
Black Skaven - Dagger, Sword, Sling - 52gc
Eshin Sorcerer - Spear, Sling - 57 pts (Dont really want this dude in combat so thought id go with the spear to hit first in the first round and im thinking of this model for him )
Night Runner - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc
Night Runner - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc

Verminkin - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc
Verminkin - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc

Verminkin - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc
Verminkin - Dagger, Sling, Club - 25gc

Giant Rat
Giant Rat

Giant Rat
Giant Rat

Total - 496gc - 14 Models.
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 5:42

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Of course you can Ashton! (But to be honest I'm dead jealous of your super-long lunch breaks!) See you on Monday! tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 5:45

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Don't forget to factor in that Art of Silent Death works only with Fighting Claws...

Cianty has a point. I forgot that Skill. Indeed, if my assassin had that Skill, I would probably consider buying him claws.

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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 11:27

Very, very happy! Just picked up my Sin off fleabay for the grand total of............2.52!!!

Just my sorceror and giant rats to purchase now.
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 15:06

Whats Nemisis Crown and whats a PDF?
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PostSubject: Re: Starting warbands - Post them here! (Read first post, plz)   Fri 1 Feb 2008 - 15:48

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Whats Nemisis Crown and whats a PDF?

A "PDF" is a file format (.pdf) that allows "fixation" of documents so that - if sent - the sender can be absolutely certain that the recipient will get the layout exactly as the sender intended. Word (.doc) files can be edited. PDFs cannot.

Nemesis Crown is narrative campaign set in the WHF world and published by Games Workshop. There are scenarios for WH and Mordheim.

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