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PostSubject: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 0:48

Hi Guys just a quick question..

Can the special weapon types be applied to rare items? eg can a dwarf player pay 60gc for a gromril dwarf axe at rare 11?

The reason i ask as i'm thinking of spending 100gc on an obsidian mancatcher for my chaos dwarfs for the +1 STR to help take knocked down guys OOA and into my Engine of chaos...

The only specific thing i can find is Dark steel weapons have to be bladed. Has this been FAQ'd or erratted anywhere?
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 0:55

As far as I know all special weapon materials (gromril, ithlimar & obsidian) can be applied to any close combat weapon types.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 3:10

RationalLemming wrote:
As far as I know all special weapon materials (gromril, ithlimar & obsidian) can be applied to any close combat weapon types.

True, even if i can imagine only cutting weapon made of obsidian (sword, axes, ecc), from a fluff point of view.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 3:48

Cheers for the fast repies guys.

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True, even if i can imagine only cutting weapon made of obsidian (sword, axes, ecc), from a fluff point of view.

From a moddeling point of veiw i got hold of a lot of skaven mancatchers from the ratogre box set so they are quite spikey
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 5:59

This can be a good solution. However I think that the best thing is to decide the question with your "Mordheim friends".
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 7:38

A gromril dwarf axe makes perfect sense. A -2 Armor weapon with parry! Bam!

Of course, any dwarf who would even think of using an Ithilmar dwarf axe deserves to have his teeth kicked in. Viking
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 9:14

StyrofoamKing wrote:
A gromril dwarf axe makes perfect sense. A -2 Armor weapon with parry! Bam!

Of course, any dwarf who would even think of using an Ithilmar dwarf axe deserves to have his teeth kicked in. Viking
not true, he is just a little "confused" and may make for some interesting fluff.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 9:58

I can't stop thinking about how much an @$% you are for using mancatchers long enough to argue one way or the other. I am surprised people even want to play with those rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 14:18

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I can't stop thinking about how much an @$% you are for using mancatchers long enough to argue one way or the other. I am surprised people even want to play with those rules.
Really. That is your input into this discussion? Next time if you don't have anything useful to say then don't say anything. Mad

We had a BTB Chaos/Black/Fire Dwarf warband in our campaign year and a couple of warriors had man catchers. We had no problems with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 14:39

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aviphysics wrote:
I can't stop thinking about how much an @$% you are for using mancatchers long enough to argue one way or the other. I am surprised people even want to play with those rules.
Really. That is your input into this discussion? Next time if you don't have anything useful to say then don't say anything. Mad

We had a BTB Chaos/Black/Fire Dwarf warband in our campaign year and a couple of warriors had man catchers. We had no problems with them.

Where can i find these rules about man catchers?

In other words btw does this mean that i could have Dark steel ithilmar weapons for my dark elves? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 14:50

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Where can i find these rules about man catchers?

In other words btw does this mean that i could have Dark steel ithilmar weapons for my dark elves? scratch

go to the BTB website and download the Black Dwarf Pdf. I dont think you can have both a dark steel and ithilmar weapon as they are two seperate rare rolls
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 14:57

@Frezdaner... Ithilmar is a type of metal that weapons can be made out of. The same for gromril and obsidian. Since there are no rules for alloys in game ( Smile ) it is not possible to have a weapon made with more than one type of rare metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 15:02

Zargon the Black wrote:
Frezdaner wrote:


Where can i find these rules about man catchers?

In other words btw does this mean that i could have Dark steel ithilmar weapons for my dark elves? scratch

go to the BTB website and download the Black Dwarf Pdf. I dont think you can have both a dark steel and ithilmar weapon as they are two seperate rare rolls

Thanks alot! And yes the ithilmar/Dark steel seems abit strange:P
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 15:08

RationalLemming wrote:
@Frezdaner... Ithilmar is a type of metal that weapons can be made out of. The same for gromril and obsidian. Since there are no rules for alloys in game ( Smile ) it is not possible to have a weapon made with more than one type of rare metal.

Sorry for double post but i did not see that you answered me aswell.
Just me being abit tired. (Almost midnight here in Sweden) Of course you cant use Dark steel with a allready unique metal^^
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 15:25

RationalLemming wrote:
@Frezdaner... Ithilmar is a type of metal that weapons can be made out of. The same for gromril and obsidian. Since there are no rules for alloys in game ( Smile ) it is not possible to have a weapon made with more than one type of rare metal.

Obsidian is a stone not a metal Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Thu 9 Feb 2012 - 18:41

StyrofoamKing wrote:
A gromril dwarf axe makes perfect sense. A -2 Armor weapon with parry! Bam!

Of course, any dwarf who would even think of using an Ithilmar dwarf axe deserves to have his teeth kicked in.
I dunno... It would not be common, I admit, but I I *can* see a dwarf getting a certain satisfaction out of defeating an elf, taking his sword and armour, having them melted down and forged into a dwarven axe with the runes 'nerts to you elves' engraved on it and then using it to lay the smack down on the hoppity skippity elves. I would say if you can see your particular hero doing this then go for it.

P.S. Obsidian is a glass, not a stone :-P.
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Fri 10 Feb 2012 - 3:32

In english you call glass the "non-crystaline" vulcanic stone?
In Italy (where I came from), with glass(=vetro) we describe only the human made (by silicates) glass, not the others non crystalline material.
Do you describe like glass even ceramics?

I know it's OT but I'm culturally curious XD
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PostSubject: Re: Special Weapon Types Question   Fri 10 Feb 2012 - 13:43

Gherma wrote:
In english you call glass the "non-crystaline" vulcanic stone?
In Italy (where I came from), with glass(=vetro) we describe only the human made (by silicates) glass, not the others non crystalline material.
Do you describe like glass even ceramics?

I know it's OT but I'm culturally curious XD

This is what the English Wikipedia says about it.

From the entry on ceramics
Quote :
A ceramic is an inorganic, nonmetallic solid prepared by the action of heat and subsequent cooling.[1] Ceramic materials may have a crystalline or partly crystalline structure, or may be amorphous (e.g., a glass). Because most common ceramics are crystalline, the definition of ceramic is often restricted to inorganic crystalline materials, as opposed to the noncrystalline glasses.

from the entry on glass
Quote :
Glass is an amorphous (non-crystalline) solid material.

So the answer is that it depends on the ceramic.

A mismatch of words between languages is not uncommon. For example, in Hebrew the word used for prepared chicken is different than for a live chicken while in English they both may be called chicken.
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