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What Mordheim resource do you wish for the most?
Electronic campaign roster (that ideally will work on smart phones & tablets as well as computers)
47%
 47% [ 9 ]
Comprehensive equipment list (e.g. expanding on Mordheimer list to new equipment from Sartasa, BTB, etc)
5%
 5% [ 1 ]
Comprehensive hired sword/dp list (grade 3 and above)
26%
 26% [ 5 ]
Comprehensive warband list (grade 3 and above)
21%
 21% [ 4 ]
Other (please specify below)
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 19
 

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PostSubject: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 3:58

Hi All,

It can be hard these days to find good resources for Mordheim. The Mordheimer Information Centre is out of date, the Roster Builder has been removed from Tabletop Geeks, etc.

I've got a few projects active on my PC but I am jumping between them instead of focusing on a single project to get it complete. pale

I'd like to hear what Mordheim resource you would value most. Is it an update to an existing resource? Is it a new resource that currently is not available? The one answer that I am not interested in is hosting files (e.g. scans of Town Cryers) as I have no interest in doing that.

The grading system is from the Cianty's Heresy in Letters of the Damned 3 as copied below.
1a Official Official Games Workshop rules.
1b Unofficial Material released through GW but not declared to be official part of the rules. Otherwise the quality of this material is totally professional.
1c Experimental Material not released through GW. Approved of by people who have previously submitted level 1a or 1b material and who vouch for its professional quality.
2 Reliable Created and tested by fans. Testing includes several runs of the rules. Approved of by that gaming group. Most ambitious projects are of this category. A list with the names of the groupís members must be available to ensure the reliability.
3 Draft New rules that are written down clearly but have not yet been tested properly.
4 Forum Trash Not tested, not serious, not anything good.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts! thumbsup

Cheers,

Ben
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 4:40

I voted for the roster. I think it is the only one of the above, I would use.
In my group we have not yet taken on BTB or Sartosa or any "extramordheimal" based campains actually. So the most information like lists of equipment and hired swords etc, is really enough for us per se.

But an electronic roster would be a great thing to have! I'm currently just using excell.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 8:16

Mostly i use the editable roster from tabeltopgeeks. I would like a good electronic roster, but with certain sets of house rules (different prices, warband rating etc) and some special events (like death of the leader) the electronic roster would need an awful lot of functions, that i can easily do myself manually...

A good list of warbands would also be very intriguing, because you have them all in one place, but i would prefer a comprehensive list of hired swords, because thats the thing we mostly argue ("where did you get the rules from?", "is that hired sword allowed for this warband?" etc.). Even though the best option would be an comprehensive and integrated list of warbands and the hired swords, with a table which warband can have which hired sword.


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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 13:39

I voted for the warband list as I'm a bit mad for warbands (19 on the go currently at various stages).

If it helps, I've put them in order from my point of view, with a snippet of rationale:-

1. Warband list (reason above)
2. DP/Hired Sword list - anything that can help inspire a modelling project and/or a new gaming experience is a welcome addition.
3. Equipment list - useful (I do refer to the Mordheimer one from time to time), but not as useful to me as the above two resourcers.
4. Campaign Roster - I just use good ol' excel for all my warbands (and, for other systems, armies) and, however good other methods might be, I'm just stuck in my ways. No other reason than that. Embarassed

I think any of 1-3 above would be the best resource to make as they don't exist (or don't exist in an up to date fashion at the moment). Most people use something for their rosters, pen and paper, excel, whatever, so I personally feel that would add the least value.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 15:13

My vote goes to a hired swords list, mainly because asking for you to start an entirely different project sounds churlish.

The warbands list also sounds good, but for the most part I can find those. The hired swords are just impractical at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 15:53

I voted for the Hired Swords, as I think they're the only thing a little tricky to find. True, there's a lot of new equipment out there, but at least you can find it pretty easily in the supplements and other than that, there's not been too much really usefull published. Hired Swords, however, are sometimes hard to find in the respective articles, supplements, scenarios, town cryers, etc., and there are a LOT of interesting HS that have been created in forums, etc.... as they are easier to playtest and sometimes easier to get by than super rare equipment you perhaps only buy late in the games, and they can be better playtested I suppose.

Warbands I think are easy enough to find, at least anything that's really thought through.

What I would like most, however, was a comprehensive scenario list Very Happy THere's so many cool ones out there, but they are all over the place.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 16:44

I like this grading-system and would like to see all Warbands, Hired Swords and Items graded this way. So if you happen to make one of these lists (Hired Swords really seem to need it most if you think about it), grading the things on that list would be awesome. So instead of deciding for every single thing if it could be used in a campaign, a gaming-group could just decide on a level-of-officiality, (if that is a phrase).
Aditionally, I could think of a grade 1aa - stuff that is in the original main rulebook. Many of us don't have a bound copy and sticking to just the rulebook-stuff in the beginning makes it easier to get new players into the game, I think.

@ Saranor: google "rooster" ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 20:23

I would go with warband list as I am just starting out wit h Mordheim. However, I can see the need for them all.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Tue 22 Nov 2011 - 23:01

@ RationalLemming: what I forgot to say last night is thank you for your time and effort! Whatever exactly comes out of this, with MH being officially dead, the hobby needs people like you to keep this international players-community going!

@ Arli: nice Avatar :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Wed 23 Nov 2011 - 0:55

For the hired swords exists a good document from werekin, but it has no rating and i would like a more exact matching between warbands and hired swords including the rules for both. It would be a good compendium for the warbands. If you could even inlcude the equipment, you would have the ultimate reference book.
http://libermalefic.blogspot.com/2010/10/old-swords-on-new-contracts.html

@Grimscull:
it would be interesting to have a warband rooster.
It could be a mascot and will be feast on at the end of the mordheim year Smile

the electronic version would be a little bit crunchy and fit more in a 40k game style
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Wed 23 Nov 2011 - 6:25

As someone who is much more a modeler/painter/scenery-maker than a gamer, my vote is of dubious worth at best. Being that as it may, I voted for the Hired Sword List...they offer all sorts of interesting conversion possibilities, which appeals to moi. clown
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Wed 23 Nov 2011 - 8:44

Saranor wrote:
For the hired swords exists a good document from werekin, but it has no rating and i would like a more exact matching between warbands and hired swords including the rules for both. It would be a good compendium for the warbands. If you could even inlcude the equipment, you would have the ultimate reference book.
http://libermalefic.blogspot.com/2010/10/old-swords-on-new-contracts.html

Uh, completely forgot about that one Smile Well, it's only the official and semi-official stuff in there, not exactly sure what supplements were included. Anyways, then I opt for scenarios Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Wed 23 Nov 2011 - 10:20

I began work on a warband list a while back. It is far from complete, but I would be ok with working on it more if people want. Feel free to PM me with your email if you want it, or PM me if you have information you want me to add!

I am voting for the Hired Sword / DP list. But a Scenario list would be an awesome next project.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Thu 24 Nov 2011 - 1:45

Thank you all for your responses so far! cheers

@Eliazar... I had planned to put a scenario list option but must have forgotten! scratch Of course that seems like an even bigger task than the other items that I proposed and the Mordheimer Information Centre still has a great scenario list even if it is quite dated now. Would you want scenarios to be graded also? It seems to make sense to me.

My plans would be for an actual website and the lists would be to start off with something like the Master Equipment List from the Mordheimer Information Centre or the Warband, HS & DP lists from the Mordheim Watchtower at a high level. However, I would like the list to be able to be filtered down so that entries that match grades "1a", "1b" and "1c" are listed or entries that are from the publication "Core Rulebook" are listed or entries that are from suppliment "Khemri" are listed. None of that should be too tricky. Eventually I would like to add functionality to make it easy to print the filtered lists. Also, it would be good to be able to filter the lists by warband (e.g. show me all DPs that Skaven Clan Skyre can hire) although that is starting to get a lot more complex and I want to start simple so that I can get something up and running.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll of Most Desired Resource   Thu 24 Nov 2011 - 3:09

RationalLemming wrote:
However, I would like the list to be able to be filtered down so that entries that match grades "1a", "1b" and "1c" are listed or entries that are from the publication "Core Rulebook" are listed or entries that are from suppliment "Khemri" are listed. None of that should be too tricky. Eventually I would like to add functionality to make it easy to print the filtered lists. Also, it would be good to be able to filter the lists by warband (e.g. show me all DPs that Skaven Clan Skyre can hire) although that is starting to get a lot more complex and I want to start simple so that I can get something up and running.
Filtering - I was going to ask you for that, but wasn't sure how complex that would be. Your ideas sound as if we might get rid of having to browse through endless lists of paper or pdf sometime in the future.
Scenarios could be graded as well, of course. As many scenarios are just little alterations of others, filtering them by category would be great. Like ambush-type of scenarios, last man standing, NPC-hordes, single-NPC (that could be played by someone to be converted into Mordheim)..., and by 1 vs. 1 and multiplayer of course.
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