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PostSubject: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 0:14

Upon planning my Orc warband, I want to model my guys ahead of time and wondering if it's better to have the boss mounted on a war boar or one of the big uns
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 3:00

In all honesty I wouldn't bother. Mounted rules are brutal.

However, sometimes a idea is too cool to pass on. If you want to give it to someone I would advise giving it to a big 'un. Or better yet a recently promoted LGT so you can get some of the riding skills. But mainly because you can't buy another leader (when he dies lol ). If you want to kill off your leader and feel like being reckless than give it to him Shocked

Sorry to be cynical but my experience with mounted models has not been good ( 2x rolls on the injury table !!! ).

I would be more tempted to buy and give a mount to my enemies fave model tho lol
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 5:09

Depends what set of mounted rules you use. The Empire in Flames rules are indeed harsh, though you could go with the ones in the back of the main rule book.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 5:27

The "Blazing Saddles Rules" aren't very encouraging of riders, that is for sure. In terms of tactics, from the player's perspective, it is unwise to give a mount to the captain, since you don't want to make him more of a target and you don't want him to rush too far ahead of the mob. But, particularly with orcs, it is hard to imagine a Big Boss allowing anyone else to have a nasty, smelly, ferocious boar if he doesn't have one.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 6:05

*Imagines six Orc heroes on boars...
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 6:09

Sadly ( fortunatly ) you can only have two... unless you'r out in the wilderness ( EIF ).
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 10:21

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But, particularly with orcs, it is hard to imagine a Big Boss allowing anyone else to have a nasty, smelly, ferocious boar if he doesn't have one.

Ya..even at the risk of sending my boss to his death.. I think I'm going to mount him on to a war boar in the spirit of fluff. Boar Boyz were always my favorite cavalry in Warhammer even if they weren't the most effective.

As far as the rules we use.. essentially we treat every mounted model has having the basic riding skills without having to purchase them. We just found it made games simpler with less steps/rules to remember/take. Mounts are already expensive as is and can be targeted freely.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 12:36

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mweaver wrote:
But, particularly with orcs, it is hard to imagine a Big Boss allowing anyone else to have a nasty, smelly, ferocious boar if he doesn't have one.

Ya..even at the risk of sending my boss to his death.. I think I'm going to mount him on to a war boar in the spirit of fluff. Boar Boyz were always my favorite cavalry in Warhammer even if they weren't the most effective.

As far as the rules we use.. essentially we treat every mounted model has having the basic riding skills without having to purchase them. We just found it made games simpler with less steps/rules to remember/take. Mounts are already expensive as is and can be targeted freely.

Yeah we do that too, nevertheless we don't have to many mounted heroes in our games.

Maybe we change some more things. Only one role on the injury table for example.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 13:41

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mweaver wrote:
But, particularly with orcs, it is hard to imagine a Big Boss allowing anyone else to have a nasty, smelly, ferocious boar if he doesn't have one.

Ya..even at the risk of sending my boss to his death.. I think I'm going to mount him on to a war boar in the spirit of fluff. Boar Boyz were always my favorite cavalry in Warhammer even if they weren't the most effective.

As far as the rules we use.. essentially we treat every mounted model has having the basic riding skills without having to purchase them. We just found it made games simpler with less steps/rules to remember/take. Mounts are already expensive as is and can be targeted freely.

Yeah we do that too, nevertheless we don't have to many mounted heroes in our games.

Maybe we change some more things. Only one role on the injury table for example.

Thats a good idea. It would contribute to making less rules to remember as well. I think cost and targeting alone are already good drawbacks to having mounts.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 14:59

I like the suggestions Von Kurst made in this recent thread:

http://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/t5865-rules-for-mounts-and-riding

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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 15:28

Yea, I was also the last one to post in there.. which really did give me the idea of getting mounts, haha. Trying to find a happy medium. We're obviously far from Mordheim, having Lizardmen in the group and all.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 15:05

Lizardmen hey? You might start an arms race with your boar. I take your boar and raise you a cold one for my saurus warriors! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Wed 26 Oct 2011 - 14:57

Next step is to give your orcs and lizardmen beards.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Wed 26 Oct 2011 - 15:51

RationalLemming wrote:
Lizardmen hey? You might start an arms race with your boar. I take your boar and raise you a cold one for my saurus warriors! Laughing

That already happened here. I was the one that personally converted my GF's Temple Guard on to a DE Cold One.

On that note.. seems like the Lizardmen warband is fitted perfectly for this setup. Their leader kinda sucks at combat anyways and the key candidate for a Cold One mount is great in combat and isn't the leader.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Wed 26 Oct 2011 - 15:59

Well I hope you have some great games. I think that mounts would add an extra dimension to your campaign if you can get them to work for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Wed 26 Oct 2011 - 17:22

RationalLemming wrote:
Well I hope you have some great games. I think that mounts would add an extra dimension to your campaign if you can get them to work for you.

One thing I've planned to maybe incorporate is to have an additional 50-100 points (haven't decided yet) that can only be spent on armor and mounts, or maybe just even weapons (again, haven't decided yet). I'll probably just keep the additional points for mounts and armor since those are the 2 that seem to be potentially over-costed.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Wed 26 Oct 2011 - 21:11

Thought I'd just post pics in here of the Temple Guard on Cold One I converted for my girlfriend's warband.


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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Thu 27 Oct 2011 - 1:38

Looks good! thumbsup
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Thu 27 Oct 2011 - 20:37

That's gorgeous! Good work.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Thu 27 Oct 2011 - 22:01

Excellent!
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Fri 28 Oct 2011 - 4:20

Good stuff! Hope to see this painted up soon!
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Fri 28 Oct 2011 - 20:01

Thanks for all the praise. Now for another question.. if you guys mount your leader.. what do you guys usually arm him with? My immediate thought is shield and spear.. especially if its my boss... I better plan him to become a pin cushion.

Update: He just didn't look proper with spear.. so I went and gave him a choppa instead (counts as morning star?)


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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Sat 29 Oct 2011 - 1:59

Looks good. I think a shield is a good idea as he will be the target of a lot of missile fire.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Sat 29 Oct 2011 - 8:43

Is your boss a black orc or an orc? If you are house ruling choppas for orcs, I would use the rules from Warhammer 6th and 7th, that the weapon grants +1 St in the first round and lose the morning star connection, since you can use a choppa with a shield in Warhammer.

Nice model, too. He could use more stuff to compare with the Saurus, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Who do you guys usually give mounts to   Sat 29 Oct 2011 - 10:19

Thanks for the tidbits. Regular Orc and we probably will adopt the Warhamner choppa rules. I'll be sifting more into my bits box to see what I can come up with.
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