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PostSubject: art of silent death and critical hits   Sat 5 Mar 2011 - 17:01

how does the skaven skill "art of silent death" work in the following case concerning critical hits?



black skaven with S4 and AoSD fights a T5 model. As he needs a 5 to wound it, does this mean that he would not be able to land critical hits on a wound roll of 5?

so does he crit on a 5 AND 6 in this case or only on a 6?
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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 8:04

No one wants to touch this?

I'll try. We play that a warrior with the skill crits on a 5+ even if he would need a 5 to wound. The situation comes up fairly often when the rats join campaigns.
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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 13:29

No, he cant... If you need a 5+ to wound, you cant only crit on a 6, i think it was in a errat or FAQ.

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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 15:57

Really which one?
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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 22:50

Im not sure, but its the same as, if you need a 6+ to wound, you cant crit, so if needing a 5+ to you cant crit on a 5.

I will se if i can find it, if you got the annual, try to look in the back Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 23:07

Found it.

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Q. My friend and I had a discussion about the
skill “art of silent death”. It concerned the
ability to make a critical on 5+ instead of a 6.
On high T creatures he meant that it should
be raised to a 6, as you cannot make a critical
hit on a creature that you need a 6 to wound
in normal cases. Hence you shouldn’t be able
to make a critical hit on a 5 if you needed a 5
to wound it. I meant the rule was quite clear
and it only mattered vs. high T creatures,
which probably would be a pain in the ass
anyway. And this one skill might actually
prove much more dangerous to this
particularly type of creatures. What do you
think?
A. As you can’t make a critical hit on 6 if you
require 6 to wound, play it the way that if
model with Art of Silent Death skill requires
5+ to wound, then critical hit can be scored
only when dice rolls 6. If you required 6+ to
hit and score 5 you cause neither hit nor
critical hit.
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http://www.tacticalwargames.net/sg/forum/index.php?topic=1039.0

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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Mon 7 Mar 2011 - 0:56

thanks skavenslayer! I'm glad they ruled it out (although it seems a bit that the player asks a suggestive question and the "answerer" goes for it... )

something is unclear to me though:

Quote :

If you required 6+ to hit and score 5 you cause neither hit nor critical hit.
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Didn't he mean "to wound" instead of "to hit"?



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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Mon 7 Mar 2011 - 1:22

Heh.. yeah, i think, must admit i diddent (re)read anything, but i guess that is what he meant.

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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Mon 7 Mar 2011 - 3:55

Dahag wrote:
thanks skavenslayer!

Didn't he mean "to wound" instead of "to hit"?




Definitely. It is all the terminology mess with these unfortunate critical "hits", while in fact they are critical wounds
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PostSubject: Re: art of silent death and critical hits   Mon 7 Mar 2011 - 20:59

Thanks for finding that FAQ Skavenslayer!
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