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PostSubject: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSat 20 Oct 2007 - 11:53

Boehm posted an interesting reply to a remark that I made in another thread, concerning "Fanatic Army Painter".

http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/default.asp

I have moved his reply to a new thread in the painting section where it is more appropriate.

Boehm wrote:
"Anybody here have any experice with the mentioned product? ...I think the results look very good myself, but I also think its a bit pricey ...and felt like trying my own way so I opted to forego it ...but if I were to paint a whole army I would definately consider it !

(well either that or just buy some ink and try to mix it and do the inking myself - should be somewhat cheaper)"


What do you think about FAP? Please fell free to comment!

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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSat 20 Oct 2007 - 12:15

Hi Boehm!

While I do agree with you that the results with FAP look good, I think the problem is just that. They look "good". Period. Nothing really interesting.

I think for really beautiful minis you will have no choice but to do it the old, tedious way, i.e. with your brush Smile

I have never used FAP, but I have held the can in my hands, and I have to tell you, it is VERY small. I would guess that it contains roughly 250ml of the stuff, which is not much.

Plus, what if you don't like the result? Is there any way of getting your miniature clean again after this FAP-varnish has been applied? (with normally painted miniatures that is extremely easy: use a mordant/caustic fluid for furniture on metal models or normal brake-fluid from any gas station for plastic minis, they will look as good as new!).

@ inks: :S I would REALLY like to see how you do that Very Happy No, really, I'm not kidding. I have tried that many many years ago, and I remember the result as hideous... But on the other hand inks are not as toxic as FAP.

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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSat 20 Oct 2007 - 20:20

@Inks - well I have never actually tried working with these ...but GW actually has a nice guide to these ...that almost make me believe that even I could give it a go! Rolling Eyes

Look up Technique 3: Washes ...and Technique 4: Staining and Glazing

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/painting/painting_basics/techniques/default.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSat 20 Oct 2007 - 21:45

I don't like the FAP, mostly because I just can't imagine painting my models in another way than the one I'm used to Laughing
And I don't like these brownish looking colours, especially on white it looks bad in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSun 21 Oct 2007 - 12:57

Hey!

Thanks for the link, I read a little bit through it... It seems feasable. Yet imo the "quick-painting" technique that has the best results is drybrushing. For example with an orc army, you could drybrush all of the skin parts to get your regiments done more quickly. The rest you would have to paint.

I agree with Erkwin that a "dipped" miniature has a very particular look, in that I will always looks as though it acidentally fell into something. scratch
If you check out the "crusaders of light" here (page 4) you will see what I mean.

And also "dipping" does something to the miniature which I don't really like: it flattens the contrasts. And I looooooove contrasts...

So FAP is really not an option for me neither. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSun 21 Oct 2007 - 13:21

Yeah ok for sure it doesn't look as good as a "normal" painting, with traditionnal brush strokes... but don't forget that this is meant as an "ersatz" for normal painting, for people who don't have the time and the patience to paint their entire army model by model... and it is also for people who can't paint that well ! (like me for example). I think it's better to have models that look "OK" with FAP rather than models that look awful when painted by unprofessional hands.
And for a "paint noob" like me, I think FAP looks impressive!
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeSun 21 Oct 2007 - 15:16

You are right Nico, not everyone is an obsessive perfectionist like me Very Happy

No, seriously, I think you have a point Nico. If you want to buy a pot of FAP you might want to do it here.

It's an excellent shop very close to my house in Vienna (close to AKH).

Persƶnliche Abholung kostet nichts, und das geschƤft ist in der Regel um die 10% billiger als alle anderen (...abgesehen davon, dass MICROCONSTRUCT - meines Wissens nach - das einzige GeschƤft in Wien ist das FAP Ć¼berhaupt fĆ¼hrt).


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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 18:29

Ahh the picture reminds me of all the good posts about getting paint off plastic Smile sweet old times Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 18:45

Tagnator wrote:
Ahh the picture reminds me of all the good posts about getting paint off plastic Smile sweet old times Razz

'throw your model in terpetine, rub it with a brush, and voĆ­la!' Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 19:49

lol if you don't want your plastic models back, yes then you can use terpentine Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 19:59

Tagnator wrote:
lol if you don't want your plastic models back, yes then you can use terpentine Razz

and in Tag's case, a lighter Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 20:00

... Razz It where experiment's! For science affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 20:02

Tagnator wrote:
... Razz It where experiment's! For science affraid

if it was I wasn't running with glasses of water trough your house Razz Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeMon 12 Nov 2007 - 20:03

Sweet memerories Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Fanatic Army Painter   Fanatic Army Painter Icon_minitimeTue 13 Nov 2007 - 0:50

Tagnator and Matt. Second warning. No more spamming please.

(I had to delete 3 whole pages of spam, post by post and I did only remove the worst. You are testing my patience. I am sorry Erkwin, some of your comments had to go too, but only to keep the logic of the discussion. I apologise for that.)
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