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PostSubject: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 4:22

So today I got a can of matt varnish to spray on my clan Pestilens skaven which already had a gloss coat for protection.
Anyway I spray it on and almost immediately it turns the miniatures white, I've heard people calling it "fogging".
After a short barrage of curse words I grab the gloss varnish and spray the models with that again. the "fogging" disappeared thank god, but the mini's are still shiny.

The matt varnish I used is from Windsor and Newton, (but it's not new as I got it from my father who stopped painting and bought this maybe a year ago).
Even though it's quite rainy here in the Netherlands I sprayed it indoors and put a hairdryer on the miniatures to provide dry air.

I have ordered a can of Testor's dullcote but i've herd that has been taken off the shelves in Europe so I will be surpirsed if that's ever delivered.

What kinds of matt varnish do you guys use?
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 5:20

Testor's Dullcote which they reformulated to remove nasty ingredients banned by the EU.
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 5:31

I use Krylon Matte Finish & recently Testor's Dull Coat as a final finish. What a Face
The key elements to getting the spray to work well is to shake the can until your arm is about to fall off; spray from a distance of about 1', NEVER spray when it's raining or the temperature is either too high or too low...the hair dryer could be the main culprit in the foggy effect. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 5:43

okay I'll try again when my Testor's Dullcote arrives, on a test mini mind you.

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.the hair dryer could be the main culprit in the foggy effect. Suspect

Actually I used the hairdryer after it became foggy, so it helped me get rid of the effect, so maybe it's still too humid to spray?
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 5:49

Wise words from Deaf, but he forgot the parts about spraying in a sweep starting before, and finishing past, the miniature; wearing odd socks and keeping the fingers on your left hand crossed at all times Wink
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 6:04

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Wise words from Deaf, but he forgot the parts about spraying in a sweep starting before, and finishing past, the miniature; wearing odd socks and keeping the fingers on your left hand crossed at all times Wink

lol! ...in extreme cases sacrificing a live chicken might work. Suspect

The sweeping motion is a definite; also doing a couple of very light sprays is preferable to doing a single heavy-handed one. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 6:31

Well I tried it again because it's a shame to let a full can of varnish go to waste.
I tried the shake thing and the light spray thing on a test miniature and so far so good, I have to let it dry some more.
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Thu 19 Aug 2010 - 16:21

best thing to do before spraying, is spray a bit into the air (seriously Wink) this gets rid of any old cllutter in the nozzle, and prevents fogging particles from spraying onto the model.
the sweep is a must, and also, the thin coats. if it gets thick, it colors white, just like water effects do.
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PostSubject: Re: oh my god!!!!   Fri 20 Aug 2010 - 0:59

The citadel purity spray does exactly the same if you apply too thick a coat. I've found two light coats does a much better job than one heavy coat.
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