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PostSubject: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sat 19 Jun 2010 - 14:42

Hi!

First, I'd like to apologise if this subject has already been debated in a previous topic.

After this, I'd like to ask all players here who are more experienced than me (which will be nearly everyone...) how you think I should equip my skaven heroes.

I really like the fighting claws (mpstly fluffwise), but feel that they are a bit too limiting. Up until now, I've been using them on all my Assassins and Black Skavens anyhow, but how do you guys feel about this?

I'm very interested in trying out weeping blades and a sling, with a possible blunderbuss eventually for the assassin and stick with the fighting claws on the black skavens.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sat 19 Jun 2010 - 16:03

I always equip my Black Skavens with Fighting Claws. By far the best weapons for them. I've used them for years over many many games and have never been disappointed.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sat 19 Jun 2010 - 16:15

Thanks for your input!

How do you equip your assassin adept?
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sat 19 Jun 2010 - 16:17

I like to equip one Black Skaven with fighting claws and one with a flail. The one with claws I specialise into a fighter with as many attacks as I can get for chewing through chaff. He takes Art of Silent Death, Combat Master, Pit Fighter, etc.

That being said, I don't equip him with said claws until he *has* AoSD and Lightning Reflexes.

The Black Skaven with the flail I specialise in taking down high-T opponents so AoSD, Mighty Blow, Web of Steel, Weapons Training (for a DHW), Strongman etc.

Perfect Killer on your Assassin is too valuable to be used only on close quarters IMAO, so I like to give him Weeping Blades and then a Warplock Pistol, Throwing Knives, or sometimes even a Blowpipe if we are going to be doing a mission with Sentries.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sat 19 Jun 2010 - 17:00

I never use them. I have always considered them too limiting. But based on what Lord O and others have posted here and on Warseer, the next time I have a Skaven band that advances a bit I will try making one BS a fightin' claw killer.

If nothing else, the models look cool.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Sun 20 Jun 2010 - 16:16

Or you can give fighting claws to your Eshin sorcerer, together with the spell "Black Fury", and the skill "Art of Silent Death" (as his first skill upgrade): run 10", teleport 12", attack with 5A/WS3/S4/Crit5-6... ^^
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Tue 22 Jun 2010 - 7:14

The nasties thing with that combo is that you get it for 80gc... 10 pts cheaper than a possessed and way much harder, especially with the nerfed spear rules. The next nastiest thing is that it's just a tad bit less than 50% chance of pulling the spell off.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Thu 24 Jun 2010 - 5:52

The suck thing, of course, is that it only lasts one round and now your Hero that can't wear armour is unsupported deep inside enemy territory .
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Thu 24 Jun 2010 - 11:52

Tzapquiel wrote:
Or you can give fighting claws to your Eshin sorcerer, together with the spell "Black Fury", and the skill "Art of Silent Death" (as his first skill upgrade): run 10", teleport 12", attack with 5A/WS3/S4/Crit5-6... ^^

WOooooo never thought of that before ....

I typically equip my assassin with weeping blades, and at the first possible chance get tail fighting and either equip a shield or something else.

I always arm my black skaven with Fighting Claws

My Night Runners I typically give slings or blowpipes to. I have in the past given them weapons expert at the first chance, and give them bows just to add an element of shooting into my warband.

My Sorcerer I give warplock pistols to. No real reason for it other than it seems to keep people away from him
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Thu 24 Jun 2010 - 16:32

Yes, Weeping blades and some throwing stars usually does it for the Assassin.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Thu 24 Jun 2010 - 16:45

Lord 0 wrote:
The suck thing, of course, is that it only lasts one round and now your Hero that can't wear armour is unsupported deep inside enemy territory .

Only if you send him deep inside enemy territory to begin with; you could just use him to take out lone snipers and the like (or if the chosen scenario dictates a high priority target for some reason)...
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Fri 25 Jun 2010 - 5:51

Ah, yes. Lone snipers and the like. Forgot about them.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Fri 25 Jun 2010 - 8:59

And there is no need to send him 24 inches deep, you could as well move across your own line to take out troublesome enemies and the like.

But the option is possible, but if you send him alone into enemy lines the game is made for him to die Wink
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Tue 29 Jun 2010 - 4:55

I'm a newbie, but I equipped one black skaven with fighting claws, and another with a flail (he might look into a two-handed weapon later on). So far they've done pretty well, the claws one got Art of Silent Death, and the one with the flail an extra attack. I prefer the diversity of the two different black skaven (also keeps me from confusing one from the other), and both models look cool. Strange, though, I always miss my ST6 attacks on the first turn, but the guy usually outright OOA's on the 2nd-3rd round of combat...
So far my assassin has a sword and warlock pistol, but he may look into weeping blades if I'm comfortable enough with cash later on. I'm trying to keep him from CC, since he has a tendency to go OOA when doing so, and I'll try to develop him into a pistolier of sorts, close to the action but not in the thick of it (ie: close enough to grant LD bonus, but protected from melee).


For the sorcerer, I agree that sending him deep is dangerous, but it all depends on the scenario. If you have people close enough to capitalize on a few knock-downs/stuns in the following round, it can be worth it to lose him, although I dislike the general unreliability of spellcasting in combat.
My sorcerer got Children of the Horned Rat, and one thing I've been considering for him is Infiltration. Since the giant rats have to start within 6" of him, it's a tiny strike force anywhere on the table. Problem is giant rats pretty much stink, and can't really do anything in terms of objective/climb/etc. Still, might be interesting to try out, but I'm tempted to just get another spell.
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PostSubject: Re: FCs or not? How to equip Skaven heroes.   Tue 29 Jun 2010 - 9:22

The Giant rats are a valuable meat-shield. If you infiltrate with a few other heroes, possibly Hunch a few Verminkin up there as well and you have a nasty strike-force indeed.
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