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PostSubject: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:00

Hi,
wich is the official beastmen list?
The old one or the one on TC29?
The only change between the lists is the Trample rule?
Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:06

Have a look here.

All warbands rated 1a are "official".
Hence the list from TC29 (or the Empire in Flames supplement) is the "official" one.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:25

Cassius wrote:
Hi,
wich is the official beastmen list?
The old one or the one on TC29?
The only change between the lists is the Trample rule?
Thanks
The old one (from TC 7 or 9, can't remember which) was supposed to be replaced by the new one (Empire in Flames/TC 29), I believe, so that is the official one.

However, there were some pretty big differences between the two. For starters, the new one brought beastmen in line with the current Warhammer version of them (i.e. no 2 wounds on every Gor, faster but lower LD), and also added the Centigor who didn't exist back in 5th edition which is what the first list was based on. A lot of the skills were refined, as well. Any which way, both are (in my experience) fairly balanced lists, so if you or someone in your group had a preference for one over the others, I don't see a big problem with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:30

I'm sorry, with "old one" I means the EIF list, not the TC7.
The EIF list and the TC29 list are different, in the EIF there isn't the Trample rule.
On the 2005 Rules Review is written "Beastmen warbands from Empire In Flames".
So is the TC29 warband unofficial?
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:47

Cassius wrote:
I'm sorry, with "old one" I means the EIF list, not the TC7.
The EIF list and the TC29 list are different, in the EIF there isn't the Trample rule.
On the 2005 Rules Review is written "Beastmen warbands from Empire In Flames".
So is the TC29 warband unofficial?

My bad, I thought the EiF and TC 29 lists were identical. What's the "trample" rule?

Now that I think of it, I believe one list changed "Shaggy Hide" from wielding a two-handed weapon in one hand to +1 armor save. I'm pretty sure whichever one has the +1 armor save version of the skill is the official list.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 11:54

Is the additional attack made with hooves by Centigors.
I've found it, it'also in the EINF book, but under the henchmen list, problably they made a mistake with layout!
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 12:36

The TC version was pubslihed before the EIF supplement was released (it was a kind of preview). The official one is the EIF version plus all the errata from the Mordheim Errata.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sat 22 May 2010 - 8:48

Wow !
just wanted to check on centigor for a beastmen warband that I hopefully will start before I grow old and senile, since it wasn't on the list I have, but now you guys have got my head spinning !
Nobody happens to have the last edition list with errata already included / corrected ?
(yeah, yeah, I know, I'm a lazy bum ... but on the other hand ; I need all my time to paint !)
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sat 22 May 2010 - 9:18

pascal the rascal wrote:
Nobody happens to have the last edition list with errata already included / corrected ?

Such a file simply does not exist. At least not from GW. You'd have to do it yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sat 22 May 2010 - 9:20

Cianty is correct. There was no energy put into fixing the documents.

If I had PDF writer it would be tempting to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sat 22 May 2010 - 10:06

eh ... Bank ... i just googled ; apparently there are free converters pd to word and back again ...
have i got you tempted yet ?
a little bit ... ?
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PostSubject: Re: Official Beastmen   Sun 23 May 2010 - 18:54

The Mordheimer has a good FAQ section, although one must be careful because some are really old, and refer to rules which have been changed in the Rules Review

For example; one answer says it is possible to attack with a spear and sword in combat.
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