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PostSubject: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 12:17

Probably, this is an obvious question. But just in case it isn't:

Can I reroll to hit with my crossbow pistol in the first round of combat against a hated enemy?
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PostSubject: Re: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 12:21

We play you can't 'cause it's a "shot" and not a HtoH attack, but you can with normal pistols or dual pistols as their rules say they add a HtoH attack pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_smile
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PostSubject: Re: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 12:22

Going by the strict letter of the rules I would say yes. The rules for Hatred do say "any misses in the first round", not just those made using WS. The crossbow pistol rules say they are used in the first round of H-to-H, they just use a different mechanic to hit.

Whether this was intended or not is another matter but that is not really my place to judge.
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PostSubject: Re: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 14:27

So by the rules, you can re-roll?

I still think the pistol/crossbow pistol disconnect is very strange game design. Why do they use entirely different methods of representing the same action?
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PostSubject: Re: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 15:50

I think they operate so differently because the deisgners viewed it as an assassination tool. Concealed until the last moment and silent.

Thing is, you could also conceal a pistol (heroic scale doesn't help that argument though pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_razz ) so it probably should follow the same system as crossbow pistols.

I think if I ever do a Witch Hunter warband, I'm going to arm my captain with a brace of crossbow pistols for fun. Ludicrously expensive but the model would look cool.
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PostSubject: Re: Crossbow pistols and hatred   pistols - Crossbow pistols and hatred Icon_minitimeTue 13 Oct 2009 - 16:12

catferret wrote:
I think they operate so differently because the deisgners viewed it as an assassination tool. Concealed until the last moment and silent.

It could be that, I suppose. Or maybe they just didn't really think about it - the pistol rules came in from warhammer, and the crossbow pistol was new. It might not have occurred to anyone to have them work the same way.



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I think if I ever do a Witch Hunter warband, I'm going to arm my captain with a brace of crossbow pistols for fun.

Better just get one until he has the pistoleer skill though!
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