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PostSubject: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 8:39

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213125
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 8:47

LOL! Awesome, Asp! You are my hero! cheers

I couldn't agree more with what you said over there. thumbsup

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 17:22

Mark my words... I promise to post more

Gonna get some camera batteries tomorrow, thanks Asp for kickstarting Ghod into action cheers
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 0:46

cheers Go Asp!!
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 7:39

Looking forward to it, Ghond
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 7:52

unfortunate turn of events on the SG forums:

http://www.sg.tacticalwargames.net/forum/index.php?topic=496.0

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 9:35

So Asp, what is it that you don't approve of concerning Tom's and my moderation here? Feel free to PM me.

That aside, while I do agree with your good intentions, I also see how your post reads as "why are you still wasting your time here, when TBMF is much better". Maybe that was not what you intended to express but that is how it does come across. And I understand how DaBank doesn't want that on the SG Forum. The SG Forum contains the official Mordheim forum and that cannot be replaced by anything. Unless you are already signed up somewhere, then that's where I would go with my rules questions etc. The focus of this forum has always been - and will always be - the hobby aspect of Mordheim, ie. painting and converting warbands and creating scenery. It was never much about rules discussions, experimental stuff, etc. Like Styro and Master, if you want to discuss home-brewed rules, the SG is the place to go. There are different intentions and purposes for these forums and all have their own right to exist.

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 12:52

I found my way to this forum partly because of that post on warseer.
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 14:24

and you live in Holland! heej!

wherabouts?

oh, and welcome of course! haha
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 17:44

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So Asp, what is it that you don't approve of concerning Tom's and my moderation here? Feel free to PM me.

Well off the top of my head it was the closing of the Devil's Den threads which I never saw a good, rational, reason for.

And there has been some "lifted fingers" in my direction when I pointed out imbalances in vanilla in the past.

But of course all of thius is some time ago. I very much appreciate your last many moderating descisions.

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Other than that:

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The SG Forum contains the official Mordheim forum and that cannot be replaced by anything.

I am not talking about replacing anything. Here is my reply to Bank:

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A second point raised by Da Bank is: "Please do not detract from this forum." the obvious answer is, how could I?

What Da Bank is advocating is essentially a 17th century view of supply known as Mercantilism, which states that the resources of the world are limited. If the resources of the world correspond to a cake, then the cake is finite, and everybody is locked in a competition for as big a slice as possible.

However, this view of the world has long since been abandoned and replaced by the view known as Comarative Advantage ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage ), which states that the resources of the world can grow through cooperation. If the resources of the world correspond to a cake, then the size of the cake (and hence everyone's slice) can grow if we cooperate.

The point I am making here is that I simply cannot detract from this forum unless Tom's Forum is superior to it in every way, which it clearly is not as evidenced, amongst other things, by the discussion on Warseer.

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The Bank repeats to me that "This is not a competition." but where have I ever said it was? I wanted to know why people preferred other boards to Tom's Forum. I view people as mature individuals capable of making their own decisions. If they knowingly are here and not there I assume that they have good reasons, reasons I'd like to know.

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So of course, as you say, "every forum has a right to exist" - My view is not that of a static "competition", but rather that of Say's Law: That supply creates demand. - Counter-intuitive, but true.

The point here being, that the more people that actively engage each other in a forum, the more Mordheim forums can be suitained in total and the best way to make as many people as possilbe engage with each other is to have them on the same forums. (which does not rule out them being on other forums as well.)

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 21:45

I too have been banned from GW's specialist games forum. WTF? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Is the inquisition forming up outside right now?
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 1:30

Yes, I remember those 'lifted finger moments'. They mostly had to do with you telling newly joined members, even people new to the game, how broken it is and that they should at best play your version instead. Not?

I did read your reply before it was moved. As I said, I agree with your intentions, but you will have to accept that your post can be interpreted differently.

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 3:29

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Well off the top of my head it was the closing of the Devil's Den threads which I never saw a good, rational, reason for.

The Devil's Den ISN'T closed/locked. It is on pg.2 of thus section; re, it's been inactive since March, SO...it got bumped down by newer posts.
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 3:37

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Asp wrote:
Well off the top of my head it was the closing of the Devil's Den threads which I never saw a good, rational, reason for.

The Devil's Den ISN'T closed/locked. It is on pg.2 of thus section; re, it's been inactive since March, SO...it got bumped down by newer posts.

But the first DD has been locked, at least temporarily, as far as I remember.
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 3:45

Eliazar wrote:
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Asp wrote:
Well off the top of my head it was the closing of the Devil's Den threads which I never saw a good, rational, reason for.

The Devil's Den ISN'T closed/locked. It is on pg.2 of thus section; re, it's been inactive since March, SO...it got bumped down by newer posts.

But the first DD has been locked, at least temporarily, as far as I remember.

I didn't realize there was more than one...do we need more than one? Suspect .
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 4:07

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I didn't realize there was more than one...do we need more than one? Suspect .

Do we need one?

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 4:07

I think the story went along the lines, that there was one first, but got locked, after some discussion, it was unlocked or another one was opened, and this did not went well, so the whole issue died on it's own after some time. But as this is long time past, I don't think it's really important anymore Wink
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 4:09

You are pretty much correct, Eli. At least I remember it similarly.

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 5:23

cianty wrote:
DeafNala wrote:
I didn't realize there was more than one...do we need more than one? Suspect .

Do we need one?

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Well it does give the Guys who are ONLY into the rules/discussion thingy something to do without chancing going blind Suspect .
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 6:36

So who else got banned from the specialist games forum? I am quite perturbed about this turn of events. Not that GW cares.
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 7:08

I'm still on there. Why did you get banned at all?
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 8:28

Yaerh, why?
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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 9:13

Did you really get banned or do you just cannot log in (maybe because of some technical issues)? Did you get a notification/expalantion why you got banned?

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PostSubject: Re: TBMF Thread on Warseer   Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 10:13

@Asp...your post was worded in such a way that it can be understood as a "put down" of the SG forum. That is pretty much it.

@Joker...I sent you a PM but it is technical as they blocked a whole range of IP addresses (I was affected also).
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