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PostSubject: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeMon 22 Dec 2008 - 23:25

Hello,

someone who played BTB Ogres with us last time put forth that on multiple attacks (2 weapons, or an Ogre with multiple attacks, or slings within range) must announce which targets are going to be hit *before* the very first dice is rolled, the same way it happens in WHFB.

Is that true?

Thanks!

EDIT: To clarify, he proposed that *first*, all targets for all attacks have to be declared, before even the first attack is rolled.


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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeMon 22 Dec 2008 - 23:28

yes it is - unless you have different initiative attacks (as far as i know only possible with mounts, mutation extra arm and a 2 hander, and saurus bite attack) then you have different phases of attacks and can choose the attacks for one phase at a time (still dividing all attacks before rolling in each phase though)
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 0:38

Example: My model with 2 weapons is engaged with 2 enemies. I declare "sword on enemy 1" and roll the to-hit, to-wound, etc. rolls. Then I declare "dagger on enemy 2" and roll the to-hit, to-wound etc. of the dagger.

(But I could also of course direct the dagger at enemy 1 again unless it got stunned or k.o.'ed by the sword.)

Is this correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 6:09

No, you must declare all attacks before rolling. For example: a guy fighting 2 enemies, he's carrying a sword and a club and he have base 2 attacks. (2 with club, 1 with sword) He must choose which of the enemy models he'll hit with which weapon before starting his attack phase at all - to avoid that the first attack knocks down the opponent and thus giving you an extra swing that was originally intended on another model Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 10:57

Yes, MYLittlepwny is correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 12:39

Can you point out where that can be read in the rules? I can't find it... (I can find neither something supporting the one view or the other).
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 14:06

That´s easy:
Quote from Page 18 "which models fight:
....If a warrior is touching more than one enemy, he can
choose which to attack. If he has more than 1 Attack,
he can divide them in any way the player wishes, so
long as he makes this clear before rolling to hit."

If you read the next paragraph on page 19 it becomes even clearer Wink :
"hitting the enemy
To determine whether hits are scored, roll
a D6 for each model fighting. If a model has
more than 1 Attack roll a D6 for each attack."
Wounding is dealt with in a later paragraph.A good guideline when trying to understand any rules is looking at the sequence in which they are appearing in the rulebook, generally this indicates the order in which they are done in the game.

So basically you announce all models you want to attack and with how many attacks you attack each of them. After that all dice rolls for hitting the enemy have to be done BEFORE you roll to wound, together this prevents you from taking advantage of "early hits" to attack other models.
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PostSubject: Re: Announce targets with multiple weapons?   Announce targets with multiple weapons? Icon_minitimeTue 23 Dec 2008 - 18:43

Doh, ok. Plain and simple. Thanks for pointing it out. I love you

How about slings with their double attacks? The same?
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